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best known as the creator the director

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the producer the writer the cameraman

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and the host of the television series

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survivorman which has now been uploaded

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to youtube via the survivorman channel

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and the links are in the description at

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les's heart he's an artist and thus we

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touch on what originality is what art is

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and isn't at least subjectively and the

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positive and a pugnant underbelly of

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what it feels like to have one's work

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mimicked we also touch on bigfoot

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experiencing orbs and how les's attitude

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has influenced my approach on not only

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the ufo topic but topics that are

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despised in general click on the

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intro for those new to this channel my

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name is kurt jaimungle i'm a filmmaker

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with a background in mathematical

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physics dedicated to the explication of

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what are called theories of everything

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from a theoretical physics perspective

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but also delineating the possible

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connection consciousness has to the

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thank you and enjoy this digressive

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conversation with les stroud do you mind

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giving the audience an overview of your

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survivorman series and then how it led

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up to the bigfoot series

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yeah years old i mean if you think about

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uh so here's the here's the overview i

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guess that survivorman started for me in

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the year 2000 even 1999 because that's

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it was the zeitgeist for um the genre

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sounds like a horrible boast to make

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myself but historic history would bear

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me out on that um without survivor man

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you don't get uh naked and afraid you

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uh case in point is that uh nobody

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wanted survived men when i first tried

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to pitch it and not nobody uh it took a

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while before i found somebody who gave

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no one this is from a nic this is a

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no one will ever want to watch people

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that was a quote right so and i said no

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do it let's be clear about that they

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were not actually surviving none of them

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one even to this date has ever done what

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so then they came along and they wanted

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more and more episodes so they just

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directions i did i did beyond survival

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taking part in all kinds of ceremonies

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the best work i think i've ever done

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and then the bigfoot thing happened

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because normally i try to work

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creatively on things that come out of my

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own brain so it's not all not already

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inventing something but every once in a

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while i do adopt the richard branson

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bigfoot did i just thought no they blew

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it they completely screwed that entirely

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and it could be so much more potent than

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what they did so i created survivement

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bigfoot there it's hard to ask me a

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answer it in one sentence that's for

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sure totally fine okay and so what was

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uh documentary series

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uh exploring the phenomenon

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called sasquatch called bigfoot

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scripted way but you know your uncle

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would say no i've seen one i've seen

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them a couple of times they do come

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through my valley in my backyard and i'd

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say okay do you mind if i camp in the

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valley in your backyard and then let's

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see what kind of i want to see what's

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possible here and that's it was going in

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and then filming what i thought were

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solid and strong documentaries

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on the phenomena that's all it was

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yeah i've unconsciously modeled myself

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after you and i have well the channel

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has a great deal to owe to you because

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much like yourself or you didn't go in

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with too much credulity nor dismissal

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you were playing the middle ground i too

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have done that when it comes to the ufo

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where i'm not believing whatever is told

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just because it's it sounds outlandish

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and i think a part of your appeal is

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that you're not a crypto zoologist

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a similar like i'm not a ufologist and

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someone from the outside is going in and

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i don't know certainly not a schtick and

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certainly not a gimmick but it's my

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thing and always has been all the way

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along look i didn't come out of a

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privileged background um

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other than my maybe my skin color i

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didn't come out of a privileged

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background my background was very low

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income there were gangs in the

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neighborhood lots of drugs a

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dysfunctional family so um i came you

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know i came from an alcoholic background

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um i've had my own issues you know when

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i was younger so i have all that in my

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background what does that mean

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it means that

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i'm not

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celebrity for my face on camera

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i'm just a person who used to load boxes

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on the crates in warehouses as a job you

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know i came from many blue collar jobs

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and that's that all of that kind of

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background

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and it means am i relatable i suppose

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you were you would say i'm relatable but

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why why am i relatable because i'm just

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like you i'm i'm not i'm not you know

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but here's the difference

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the difference

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and the chasm that i place between

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a life

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that is filled with

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edifying components that that i'm

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trying to expand my brain i'm trying to

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correct to connect

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the synapse that's the synapses synapsey

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in my brain i'm trying to make new

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connections i'm trying to be smarter i'm

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trying to learn you know when someone

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corrects me on my grammar i'm one of the

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few people that will not get mad about

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that i'm like oh my god i'm saying that

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wrong thank you for telling me you know

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um

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you know and i seek to learn from

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larger minds so if i approach a subject

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matter that is seemingly in the genre of

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like that's oh that's for like i said

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rednecks down in alabama who likes

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sasquatch well no i'm going to say no

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let's let's give them some credibility

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here let's

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sure

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you know it seems you know what

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that like

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it should be relegated to people with

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nothing more to do with their time than

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sit around and read conspiracy series or

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talk about bigfoot but it but if you can

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elevate certain things to a place of

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respectability where you can actually

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research them you know that's that's

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been my goal and so

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look i i've

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i've hung out let's say and lived and

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grew up with enough of

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the other part of society that i am the

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other part of society

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the very successful side as well uh what

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do you mean whether my filmmaking well i

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mean

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well this is a this is a not a

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conversation we're planning on getting

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into but i will say that i just knew

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there was always going to be something

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better for me yes i did yes i did say to

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myself at 20 years of age i know i'm

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better than this

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and that was didn't mean i'm better than

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them or better than you

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i just knew i was better than

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this this

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shitty alcohol strewn cigarette smoking

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life i'm living i'm better than this and

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i just always knew it and so i've always

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sought to to achieve something it took

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me till i was 45 you know so case in

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point when did survivorman the first

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episode come out i mean how old were you

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when it first came out so the pilot then

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here's a great way that you asked that

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because the pilot was when i was around

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um

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40 years of age wow and i was 42 i think

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when i landed the series i was

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now on air for four more years so now

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i'm 46 right i've been on air with

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television on television with

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survivorman for four years i'm now an

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international

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tv celebrity i'm doing interviews i'm on

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jimmy fallon and ellen

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and i'm still

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making

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it at the age of 45

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46 dollars per year

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that's my take-home revenue when i was

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45 years old i'd already been a tv

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celebrity i'm already there i made it

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with survival yet i was still only

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making about 46 000 a year

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the next year is went up for the first

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time in my life i broke the poverty line

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so i'm now i'm a man of 46 years of age

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i have two children at home and a wife

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that doesn't work and at 46 years of age

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because of survival and it was the first

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time i ever broke the poverty line all

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of that goes back to saying that you see

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that's where i come from so i'm not a

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highfalutin you know

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i'm not i was not a dancing monkey like

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mr girls wanted to be i was not a tv

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star like almost so many reality people

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want to be yeah just a guy from a

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neighborhood

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with an inquisitive mind and hopefully

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some

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quotient of talent i don't know if

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that's true or not but

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and i just never left my let myself stop

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you mentioned this monkey aspect and

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when i think about celebrities like i

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was watching the met gala and i was

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seeing billy eilish if that's how you

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pronounce her name and a few of the

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other celebrities and then the paparazzi

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were saying turn here turn here billy

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turn here and then she turns and over

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here over here and it just made me think

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oh my gosh do you not feel like a monkey

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i wonder how much they feel like they're

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just being pulled and prod like a puppet

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and

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you mentioned that you don't

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you don't want to be like that did you

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ever feel like you were being pulled in

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that direction

389
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oh i was i was very often

390
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uh let's let they attempted very often

391
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to pull me in that direction

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and uh you know i was very much a fish

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out of water when i was down in los

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angeles let's say dude doing jimmy

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fallon and then the next day going on

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some other interview radio thing and

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maybe you know the next week on ellen or

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something like that

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that that i always thought that

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paparazzi hollywood celebrity lifestyle

401
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to me

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i'm just a guy from canada man and and

403
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it was just i always felt so outside

404
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watching it thinking oh my god and you

405
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look in the vacant

406
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eyes of the paparazzi or the person

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asking you the interview sometimes you

408
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get beautiful people interviewing you

409
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but a lot of times they're they're on a

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treadmill of what they think they're

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supposed to ask you and

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and so these billionaires maybe not her

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but but these different people who they

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you stop and you pose i walked the

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runway a few times i walked the red

416
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carpet and i remember being told hey

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turn over here last turn and

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i

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enough star that nobody cared you know

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if i brat then you know brad pitt they

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would have stopped of course so it's

422
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when you achieve a certain level

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you know i've always said jokingly but

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not that i'm just a c c celebrity i

425
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think for a brief moment in time i

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achieved b level status maybe b minus

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status as a celebrity for a brief moment

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in time and as i got closer as i saw

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that i just thought this is not me i i

430
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just i'm not this you know i'm a creator

431
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i i

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i believe myself to be an artist a

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mediocre one i will say self-effacingly

434
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yes but i still have always believed

435
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that somewhere inside me is an artist

436
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and that's what i try to be not there's

437
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a big difference between being an artist

438
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and a celebrity uh-huh uh-huh okay when

439
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i'm looking at some of your new series

440
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you have this lestrade's wild harvest

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and

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have i think another series coming up or

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out

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so what's driving this i assume it's not

445
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money you said that you're creative

446
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there's more than that this

447
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yes is the short answer

448
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because i desire to be creative but not

449
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only that i desire

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to be

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a prolific

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always admired artists like david bowie

453
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frank zappa you know uh

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anybody i mean back in the day people

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used to do uh albums four out two three

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four albums a year then you know so i

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just love i just love an artist who is

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prolific that's number one that's

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driving me number two is is is the is my

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my

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need to feel relevant and when i say

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relevant let's be careful about that how

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about my need

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to

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produce works

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that matter

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which i'm sure

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sits on the shoulders of me

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hoping to matter myself

470
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as a deeper level but producing works is

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what i do and i so if i i just cannot

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produce

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fluff that's not to say i haven't

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produced shitty work i probably have but

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i try not to and

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i

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you've got a project that you could do

478
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quickly and it would be worth a ton of

479
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money and that's why you don't want to

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do it and she's laughing at me but it's

481
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like yes that's why i don't want to do

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it i want the challenge you know i like

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to do stuff that

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inspires other people

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not just entertains

486
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you mentioned that personally you may

487
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feel this sense of mattering or this

488
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lack of sense of mattering to the world

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and partly what you do is driven by that

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i'm curious if when you visit the

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wilderness do you think there's that

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drive because when you're in the city

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you're one among a million or millions

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and then when you're in the wilderness

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there's this calm there's a sense that

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you matter just as much as anyone else

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is that

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no actually it's not a motivator at all

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i'll tell you why and the answer might

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surprise you

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firstly in the city

502
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uh there is much more

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pressure

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to matter

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around people there's much more pressure

506
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to matter i think uh or in my opinion

507
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i'd come across as being quite selfish

508
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in my existence but when i get out into

509
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i i

510
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i don't matter in the most wonderful way

511
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i've never been asked that question

512
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before and that seems like a funny way

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to answer it

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out in nature i just don't matter

515
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anymore and it's absolutely wonderful

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and so that's why wilderness and nature

517
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will always be my escape

518
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you know

519
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do you ever get into altered states

520
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while you're in the wild not because

521
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you've ingested something but because of

522
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the experience itself let's say it's

523
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well or perhaps maybe because of

524
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injustice but um we can talk about that

525
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later

526
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yes i have

527
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when i invoke the use of say plant

528
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medicine or something like that no not

529
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not as deep

530
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but i blame my own personality for that

531
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i'm a stub i can have a bit of a

532
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stubborn

533
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uh angle to me and so i've never truly

534
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really gone into

535
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great altered states through meditation

536
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i know that it's incredibly valuable and

537
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many people can i've tried for many

538
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years i'm sure a teacher's out there

539
00:19:19,990 --> 00:19:18,320
going i could show you how to get into

540
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alternate state i get it i totally get

541
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it um

542
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no i think my altered state in nature is

543
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more of a gentle one where i just

544
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feel at peace so see to me rather than

545
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practicing a technique of meditating

546
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while in nature i'm just allowing myself

547
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to be

548
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what is it you said that there's some

549
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stubbornness that prevents you from

550
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using meditation to get to an altered

551
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state what do you mean by that

552
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i don't know um maybe it's like you

553
00:19:52,710 --> 00:19:51,360
started asking questions about filming

554
00:19:55,909 --> 00:19:52,720
bigfoot and i said you know i like to go

555
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in as a very open-minded skeptic um

556
00:20:00,789 --> 00:19:58,240
my my i mean through any seeking i've

557
00:20:02,230 --> 00:20:00,799
done spiritually in my life

558
00:20:04,710 --> 00:20:02,240
uh the

559
00:20:07,350 --> 00:20:04,720
prayer side of that and the meditative

560
00:20:09,350 --> 00:20:07,360
side of that has never been one that

561
00:20:11,110 --> 00:20:09,360
truly

562
00:20:12,390 --> 00:20:11,120
affected me

563
00:20:13,510 --> 00:20:12,400
the people who have that affect them all

564
00:20:15,990 --> 00:20:13,520
the time say oh you're just not fully

565
00:20:17,270 --> 00:20:16,000
giving over yourself no that's not it

566
00:20:20,310 --> 00:20:17,280
you know it's like that's

567
00:20:23,590 --> 00:20:20,320
great it affects to you great but i've

568
00:20:28,470 --> 00:20:24,470
and

569
00:20:30,950 --> 00:20:28,480
later on in life when i went down the

570
00:20:33,430 --> 00:20:30,960
road of working with plant medicines

571
00:20:35,270 --> 00:20:33,440
that broke through in a massive way in

572
00:20:36,230 --> 00:20:35,280
definitely a life-changing way

573
00:20:39,990 --> 00:20:36,240
so

574
00:20:42,230 --> 00:20:40,000
meditation and i

575
00:20:44,310 --> 00:20:42,240
we're not a perfect fit and now let's be

576
00:20:45,590 --> 00:20:44,320
careful on this see the thing is

577
00:20:47,750 --> 00:20:45,600
people can listen to motivational

578
00:20:48,870 --> 00:20:47,760
speakers or spiritual this

579
00:20:50,870 --> 00:20:48,880
a lot of times what those speakers

580
00:20:52,789 --> 00:20:50,880
forget yeah

581
00:20:53,990 --> 00:20:52,799
is that we all have these much different

582
00:20:56,470 --> 00:20:54,000
personalities

583
00:20:58,630 --> 00:20:56,480
and a speaker often speaks to you like

584
00:21:00,870 --> 00:20:58,640
you should have their personality

585
00:21:02,950 --> 00:21:00,880
right all the type a's the tim ferrisses

586
00:21:04,070 --> 00:21:02,960
and the tony robbins of this world speak

587
00:21:05,669 --> 00:21:04,080
to you like

588
00:21:06,789 --> 00:21:05,679
here's what i do and every morning i get

589
00:21:07,990 --> 00:21:06,799
up and i have my journal and this is

590
00:21:09,990 --> 00:21:08,000
what you've got to do you really want to

591
00:21:13,029 --> 00:21:10,000
be a success just let's go can i can you

592
00:21:14,549 --> 00:21:13,039
know can i get an amen right cold shower

593
00:21:15,909 --> 00:21:14,559
i'm like you know

594
00:21:16,789 --> 00:21:15,919
well i do do the cold showers but that's

595
00:21:20,149 --> 00:21:16,799
cereal

596
00:21:22,470 --> 00:21:20,159
i i like the feeling i i recognize that

597
00:21:23,830 --> 00:21:22,480
for example i'm a multitasker

598
00:21:29,270 --> 00:21:23,840
i cannot

599
00:21:30,789 --> 00:21:29,280
singularly focused and i'm 60 years old

600
00:21:32,390 --> 00:21:30,799
this year i bloody well know my own

601
00:21:34,149 --> 00:21:32,400
personality don't tell me that that's my

602
00:21:35,830 --> 00:21:34,159
best way to go because you know what i'm

603
00:21:37,669 --> 00:21:35,840
better when i multitask and when every

604
00:21:39,110 --> 00:21:37,679
time i say that in a room you should see

605
00:21:41,510 --> 00:21:39,120
the people go

606
00:21:43,190 --> 00:21:41,520
thank god he said that oh thank people

607
00:21:45,750 --> 00:21:43,200
thank me for because they feel pressured

608
00:21:47,110 --> 00:21:45,760
okay yes because they feel pressure from

609
00:21:48,950 --> 00:21:47,120
the other motors

610
00:21:51,750 --> 00:21:48,960
from the unit

611
00:21:53,909 --> 00:21:51,760
yes and that's not me never will be me

612
00:21:56,230 --> 00:21:53,919
yeah you mentioned cold showers wim hof

613
00:21:58,230 --> 00:21:56,240
have you followed him at all do you find

614
00:22:00,789 --> 00:21:58,240
any of his practices i did my breathing

615
00:22:02,870 --> 00:22:00,799
this morning um however i gotta i'd love

616
00:22:05,270 --> 00:22:02,880
to ask him about this and i i saw it in

617
00:22:06,950 --> 00:22:05,280
an faq but i was doing the wim hof

618
00:22:08,950 --> 00:22:06,960
method very successfully really enjoying

619
00:22:10,230 --> 00:22:08,960
it and then one morning while doing it

620
00:22:12,390 --> 00:22:10,240
late just like that i got hit with

621
00:22:14,870 --> 00:22:12,400
tinnitus and i've had it ever since then

622
00:22:16,630 --> 00:22:14,880
i ch then i i checked his faqs and

623
00:22:18,470 --> 00:22:16,640
people been asking about tinnitus after

624
00:22:19,830 --> 00:22:18,480
the wim hof method and it says don't

625
00:22:22,149 --> 00:22:19,840
worry about it it goes away guess what

626
00:22:23,750 --> 00:22:22,159
it hasn't gone away okay now 60 years of

627
00:22:25,669 --> 00:22:23,760
age i just for the first time in my life

628
00:22:27,270 --> 00:22:25,679
have tinnitus so if anybody's into wim

629
00:22:29,430 --> 00:22:27,280
hof yes it's brilliant yes the cold

630
00:22:30,710 --> 00:22:29,440
showers is brilliant and his meditation

631
00:22:32,149 --> 00:22:30,720
teaching is probably great though i

632
00:22:34,789 --> 00:22:32,159
haven't gone down that road

633
00:22:37,029 --> 00:22:34,799
but the the breathing it in me

634
00:22:37,990 --> 00:22:37,039
do i know it caused it well let me say

635
00:22:39,350 --> 00:22:38,000
that it

636
00:22:41,110 --> 00:22:39,360
it happened

637
00:22:42,549 --> 00:22:41,120
bam right in the middle of doing the

638
00:22:44,630 --> 00:22:42,559
breathing

639
00:22:46,870 --> 00:22:44,640
so as far as i'm concerned

640
00:22:48,310 --> 00:22:46,880
i stirred something there and yeah yeah

641
00:22:49,909 --> 00:22:48,320
i don't want to dis the wim hof method

642
00:22:51,590 --> 00:22:49,919
believe me if you haven't heard if

643
00:22:54,310 --> 00:22:51,600
people listening haven't heard me it's

644
00:22:58,070 --> 00:22:54,320
brilliant and i like the cold shower

645
00:22:59,830 --> 00:22:58,080
thing it really does zip me up i

646
00:23:01,990 --> 00:22:59,840
but that happened to me anyway i'm i'm

647
00:23:03,430 --> 00:23:02,000
venting a little on that because it's

648
00:23:05,029 --> 00:23:03,440
unfortunate because i really enjoy the

649
00:23:07,430 --> 00:23:05,039
breathing

650
00:23:08,870 --> 00:23:07,440
whenever i do the wim hof exercise if

651
00:23:11,750 --> 00:23:08,880
i'm doing it properly around that second

652
00:23:13,270 --> 00:23:11,760
or third time that i hold my breath

653
00:23:15,270 --> 00:23:13,280
then i get some tinnitus but it goes

654
00:23:17,029 --> 00:23:15,280
away after about a minute my mine didn't

655
00:23:19,190 --> 00:23:17,039
go away did you ever have temporary

656
00:23:20,470 --> 00:23:19,200
tinnitus or you just had only permanent

657
00:23:22,470 --> 00:23:20,480
tinnitus it just kicked in and never

658
00:23:23,350 --> 00:23:22,480
left kicked in once and never left oh

659
00:23:25,350 --> 00:23:23,360
boy

660
00:23:27,830 --> 00:23:25,360
and i've never had it in my life

661
00:23:29,350 --> 00:23:27,840
so you know i might i finally funny you

662
00:23:30,789 --> 00:23:29,360
asked because i actually did the method

663
00:23:32,070 --> 00:23:30,799
very brief i just did a short version of

664
00:23:33,510 --> 00:23:32,080
the method this morning first time in

665
00:23:36,710 --> 00:23:33,520
about three months because my ears have

666
00:23:39,510 --> 00:23:36,720
calmed down you know and

667
00:23:40,390 --> 00:23:39,520
that's back oh boy i'm sorry about that

668
00:23:42,710 --> 00:23:40,400
okay

669
00:23:44,070 --> 00:23:42,720
when it comes to filmmaking you know

670
00:23:46,230 --> 00:23:44,080
people who aren't filmmakers don't

671
00:23:47,990 --> 00:23:46,240
realize how

672
00:23:49,590 --> 00:23:48,000
let's say when i watch a movie i notice

673
00:23:50,470 --> 00:23:49,600
plenty of what they don't do than what

674
00:23:52,149 --> 00:23:50,480
they do

675
00:23:54,470 --> 00:23:52,159
so what i mean by that is that they

676
00:23:56,630 --> 00:23:54,480
chose not to show a shot reverse shot

677
00:23:58,149 --> 00:23:56,640
that they chose to have it at two shots

678
00:23:59,990 --> 00:23:58,159
at a two shot and to me i'm like okay

679
00:24:01,510 --> 00:24:00,000
that's an interesting choice most people

680
00:24:02,710 --> 00:24:01,520
notice

681
00:24:05,110 --> 00:24:02,720
the presence of something not the

682
00:24:06,390 --> 00:24:05,120
absence of something and in yours i

683
00:24:08,549 --> 00:24:06,400
remember you talking about you didn't

684
00:24:10,789 --> 00:24:08,559
want to include so-and-so element in

685
00:24:12,390 --> 00:24:10,799
survivorman's what's some of what you

686
00:24:14,070 --> 00:24:12,400
could have chosen to include that you

687
00:24:15,590 --> 00:24:14,080
chose to exclude

688
00:24:17,669 --> 00:24:15,600
and why

689
00:24:19,909 --> 00:24:17,679
well first of all all of the cliches of

690
00:24:22,470 --> 00:24:19,919
television filmmaking so all of the

691
00:24:24,310 --> 00:24:22,480
cliches that other producers rely on as

692
00:24:26,230 --> 00:24:24,320
a crutch

693
00:24:28,710 --> 00:24:26,240
to

694
00:24:32,549 --> 00:24:28,720
make up for the content they didn't get

695
00:24:34,950 --> 00:24:32,559
so uh i i so so the

696
00:24:36,549 --> 00:24:34,960
coming up next moment and the here's

697
00:24:39,269 --> 00:24:36,559
what you missed before the commercial

698
00:24:41,669 --> 00:24:39,279
moments all of that is a device it's a

699
00:24:42,950 --> 00:24:41,679
device that just basically says oh you

700
00:24:44,789 --> 00:24:42,960
don't have enough content to fill an

701
00:24:46,950 --> 00:24:44,799
extra 60 seconds so you're going to do

702
00:24:48,549 --> 00:24:46,960
15 seconds before and after every

703
00:24:50,390 --> 00:24:48,559
commercial to fill up that time in your

704
00:24:53,029 --> 00:24:50,400
show that's what i really think is being

705
00:24:54,549 --> 00:24:53,039
said there i think it's achieved um

706
00:24:56,230 --> 00:24:54,559
certainly um

707
00:24:57,990 --> 00:24:56,240
within the filming of survivor man

708
00:24:59,350 --> 00:24:58,000
there's two levels here right there's

709
00:25:01,110 --> 00:24:59,360
the filming

710
00:25:02,549 --> 00:25:01,120
and then there's the editing

711
00:25:06,549 --> 00:25:02,559
two different worlds

712
00:25:08,070 --> 00:25:06,559
and in both cases survivor man

713
00:25:10,070 --> 00:25:08,080
enabled

714
00:25:11,669 --> 00:25:10,080
or or rather

715
00:25:13,590 --> 00:25:11,679
demanded of me

716
00:25:16,230 --> 00:25:13,600
that i do things that no one else had

717
00:25:17,990 --> 00:25:16,240
ever done because of necessity

718
00:25:20,950 --> 00:25:18,000
the necessity was there's nobody else

719
00:25:21,990 --> 00:25:20,960
there i'm alone

720
00:25:24,149 --> 00:25:22,000
and so

721
00:25:26,149 --> 00:25:24,159
i was doing things with the camera

722
00:25:28,870 --> 00:25:26,159
that if you watch in history i can i can

723
00:25:30,310 --> 00:25:28,880
as a brag say i was the first person to

724
00:25:31,909 --> 00:25:30,320
do that there's about six things that i

725
00:25:33,510 --> 00:25:31,919
was the first person to do i did them

726
00:25:35,430 --> 00:25:33,520
out of necessity because nobody was else

727
00:25:38,070 --> 00:25:35,440
was there with me other shows picked off

728
00:25:39,669 --> 00:25:38,080
for stylistic look as if they are alone

729
00:25:41,430 --> 00:25:39,679
but really there's a whole freaking crew

730
00:25:44,310 --> 00:25:41,440
there so can you give me an example to

731
00:25:47,510 --> 00:25:44,320
do that well for example um uh

732
00:25:49,350 --> 00:25:47,520
uh walking across a field

733
00:25:51,029 --> 00:25:49,360
i'll set up a camera

734
00:25:53,350 --> 00:25:51,039
at the halfway point i'll walk across

735
00:25:54,950 --> 00:25:53,360
the field now my editor would pick up on

736
00:25:57,269 --> 00:25:54,960
that because again in the edits week

737
00:25:58,870 --> 00:25:57,279
he's working now with footage that is

738
00:26:00,710 --> 00:25:58,880
not shot like any other show so now he

739
00:26:02,230 --> 00:26:00,720
has to do new editing techniques and

740
00:26:03,350 --> 00:26:02,240
here you would see so i would come in

741
00:26:04,950 --> 00:26:03,360
and i know you can see me so i would

742
00:26:06,549 --> 00:26:04,960
come into frame and then then it would

743
00:26:07,909 --> 00:26:06,559
be like i would disappear but i would

744
00:26:09,669 --> 00:26:07,919
show up in the middle frame and

745
00:26:10,390 --> 00:26:09,679
disappear and show up at the end frame

746
00:26:12,230 --> 00:26:10,400
well

747
00:26:14,549 --> 00:26:12,240
i had to do that because i did not have

748
00:26:15,750 --> 00:26:14,559
a camera person following me and panning

749
00:26:17,430 --> 00:26:15,760
me

750
00:26:19,029 --> 00:26:17,440
everybody else can just follow and pan

751
00:26:21,029 --> 00:26:19,039
they're out there with a big crew but

752
00:26:23,029 --> 00:26:21,039
they set it up and they do it anyway

753
00:26:24,470 --> 00:26:23,039
like give you that illusion that oh he's

754
00:26:26,630 --> 00:26:24,480
alone you know no he's not alone at all

755
00:26:28,950 --> 00:26:26,640
he's got a crew of six people with him

756
00:26:30,549 --> 00:26:28,960
right whereas mine was necessity or how

757
00:26:33,110 --> 00:26:30,559
about the self tape if i patented the

758
00:26:35,190 --> 00:26:33,120
selfie man today i mean

759
00:26:36,870 --> 00:26:35,200
when i did the selfie in survivorman no

760
00:26:39,110 --> 00:26:36,880
one we didn't even have iphones when i

761
00:26:40,789 --> 00:26:39,120
started that and and so there i was

762
00:26:43,190 --> 00:26:40,799
holding a camera on myself that had

763
00:26:44,390 --> 00:26:43,200
never been seen before ever until

764
00:26:46,789 --> 00:26:44,400
survivorman

765
00:26:48,470 --> 00:26:46,799
and now it's ubiquitous right so i could

766
00:26:49,669 --> 00:26:48,480
go on i mean that's that was one of the

767
00:26:52,470 --> 00:26:49,679
beauties and the things i loved about

768
00:26:54,470 --> 00:26:52,480
the filmmaking side of this was i was

769
00:26:57,269 --> 00:26:54,480
tasked with inventing methods that would

770
00:26:59,029 --> 00:26:57,279
work for a person who's alone for seven

771
00:27:00,950 --> 00:26:59,039
days filming himself

772
00:27:02,070 --> 00:27:00,960
lots of things i had to develop my

773
00:27:03,750 --> 00:27:02,080
editor

774
00:27:06,549 --> 00:27:03,760
likewise had to come up with ways of

775
00:27:09,590 --> 00:27:06,559
editing footage shot that way

776
00:27:11,350 --> 00:27:09,600
and you sit back and look at our show

777
00:27:14,070 --> 00:27:11,360
and everything else that was on tv in

778
00:27:15,830 --> 00:27:14,080
2004

779
00:27:17,350 --> 00:27:15,840
and we're doing all kinds of stuff

780
00:27:19,430 --> 00:27:17,360
nobody else is doing

781
00:27:20,789 --> 00:27:19,440
and then by 2008 everybody else is doing

782
00:27:22,470 --> 00:27:20,799
it

783
00:27:24,470 --> 00:27:22,480
and they're not alone that's the funny

784
00:27:27,590 --> 00:27:24,480
part does a part of you feel resentful

785
00:27:30,549 --> 00:27:27,600
about that or do you feel flattered

786
00:27:33,110 --> 00:27:30,559
uh uh that no no there's what i feel

787
00:27:35,430 --> 00:27:33,120
resentful about is is having my my

788
00:27:37,909 --> 00:27:35,440
my um format ripped off by the networks

789
00:27:39,750 --> 00:27:37,919
absolutely i was uh very like screw them

790
00:27:41,590 --> 00:27:39,760
they they written me off i should i was

791
00:27:42,950 --> 00:27:41,600
asked if i wanted to sue them when i was

792
00:27:44,549 --> 00:27:42,960
they were still airing my other works i

793
00:27:46,310 --> 00:27:44,559
was like it's like suing your mom i was

794
00:27:47,990 --> 00:27:46,320
like oh don't worry about it let it go

795
00:27:49,590 --> 00:27:48,000
and no one's ever won a format lawsuit

796
00:27:51,510 --> 00:27:49,600
by the way so no i'm not going to sue

797
00:27:53,510 --> 00:27:51,520
them so i resent i'm resentful about

798
00:27:54,710 --> 00:27:53,520
that but

799
00:27:57,510 --> 00:27:54,720
the other stuff that we're just talking

800
00:28:00,230 --> 00:27:57,520
about oh gosh no that makes me prouder

801
00:28:02,549 --> 00:28:00,240
than punch to look at something and go

802
00:28:03,750 --> 00:28:02,559
and not arrogantly just you know just

803
00:28:05,190 --> 00:28:03,760
like

804
00:28:07,510 --> 00:28:05,200
i know where that came from yeah you

805
00:28:08,470 --> 00:28:07,520
love your mark just to see that exactly

806
00:28:09,990 --> 00:28:08,480
i'll tell you i'll tell you a quick

807
00:28:12,630 --> 00:28:10,000
story there was one a very proud moment

808
00:28:14,230 --> 00:28:12,640
for me i was uh talking with a um a

809
00:28:15,590 --> 00:28:14,240
discovery producer who's actually was

810
00:28:17,190 --> 00:28:15,600
the head of purdue productions for

811
00:28:19,029 --> 00:28:17,200
discovery and we were over the talk and

812
00:28:20,310 --> 00:28:19,039
goes you know less goes and i haven't

813
00:28:23,190 --> 00:28:20,320
seen him a long time ago i got to tell

814
00:28:24,389 --> 00:28:23,200
you something he goes your series beyond

815
00:28:26,389 --> 00:28:24,399
survival

816
00:28:27,830 --> 00:28:26,399
is in my opinion the best documentary

817
00:28:29,029 --> 00:28:27,840
series that discovery channel's ever

818
00:28:30,470 --> 00:28:29,039
aired

819
00:28:33,830 --> 00:28:30,480
and he said

820
00:28:36,549 --> 00:28:33,840
i use that series to teach my field

821
00:28:37,669 --> 00:28:36,559
shooters how to film and my editors how

822
00:28:39,510 --> 00:28:37,679
to edit

823
00:28:41,990 --> 00:28:39,520
and then he started quoting

824
00:28:44,630 --> 00:28:42,000
the classical editors and filmmakers

825
00:28:46,870 --> 00:28:44,640
that my editor was influenced by like oh

826
00:28:49,269 --> 00:28:46,880
he studied you know hussein farmer from

827
00:28:50,870 --> 00:28:49,279
the from the 70 from the from the 40s

828
00:28:52,389 --> 00:28:50,880
and like stuff like that and he was

829
00:28:54,789 --> 00:28:52,399
right actually because my editor is

830
00:28:58,070 --> 00:28:54,799
barry farrell's brilliant man was very

831
00:28:59,990 --> 00:28:58,080
schooled you know so our craft that came

832
00:29:02,470 --> 00:29:00,000
out of necessity myself in the field and

833
00:29:05,510 --> 00:29:02,480
burying the editing suite that craft has

834
00:29:07,510 --> 00:29:05,520
been um the people who know

835
00:29:09,430 --> 00:29:07,520
no you know they they get they go okay

836
00:29:11,669 --> 00:29:09,440
you know and again sounds like a brag

837
00:29:13,510 --> 00:29:11,679
coming out of me but hell it happened

838
00:29:15,350 --> 00:29:13,520
and history bears me out and i'm i'm

839
00:29:17,830 --> 00:29:15,360
prouder than punched when i see stuff if

840
00:29:19,590 --> 00:29:17,840
it's if it's man versus wild which was a

841
00:29:21,510 --> 00:29:19,600
direct ripoff no that stuff was just

842
00:29:22,710 --> 00:29:21,520
like you idiots you had a crew you

843
00:29:23,909 --> 00:29:22,720
didn't have to do any of that stuff it

844
00:29:26,230 --> 00:29:23,919
dorks you're just trying to look like

845
00:29:28,230 --> 00:29:26,240
survivor man you know that's that was

846
00:29:29,430 --> 00:29:28,240
but we're going back 15 years to get

847
00:29:30,549 --> 00:29:29,440
that feeling

848
00:29:32,630 --> 00:29:30,559
it's still there because you asked me

849
00:29:34,310 --> 00:29:32,640
about it but by the same token that's

850
00:29:35,990 --> 00:29:34,320
like 15 years ago when i was pissed off

851
00:29:37,990 --> 00:29:36,000
at them i mean i'm not pissed off at all

852
00:29:41,510 --> 00:29:38,000
anymore what's that ratio the ratio of

853
00:29:43,029 --> 00:29:41,520
filmed footage to what actually airs

854
00:29:45,430 --> 00:29:43,039
and i'm sure it's changed over the years

855
00:29:48,950 --> 00:29:45,440
has it changed first of all well it has

856
00:29:51,510 --> 00:29:48,960
loosely but if it's done right um it

857
00:29:52,789 --> 00:29:51,520
really follows the classic example years

858
00:29:54,549 --> 00:29:52,799
ago

859
00:29:55,750 --> 00:29:54,559
national geographic was the bar they

860
00:29:57,029 --> 00:29:55,760
were the ones who put out the bar on the

861
00:29:58,549 --> 00:29:57,039
standard on lots of different things

862
00:30:00,230 --> 00:29:58,559
including ethics and filming it's very

863
00:30:01,830 --> 00:30:00,240
interesting and you used to always say

864
00:30:04,149 --> 00:30:01,840
what does that geo say about it oh they

865
00:30:05,590 --> 00:30:04,159
say this that that's gone that's blown

866
00:30:07,269 --> 00:30:05,600
out out of the water they their

867
00:30:08,470 --> 00:30:07,279
filmmakers have no accountability for

868
00:30:10,230 --> 00:30:08,480
ethics whatsoever anymore they don't

869
00:30:12,710 --> 00:30:10,240
give a crap they're just doing reality

870
00:30:14,710 --> 00:30:12,720
tv and that's includes nancy awhile and

871
00:30:16,950 --> 00:30:14,720
all the rest of them but years ago they

872
00:30:19,510 --> 00:30:16,960
were the standard right and the standard

873
00:30:22,149 --> 00:30:19,520
years ago was four documentary films 40

874
00:30:23,830 --> 00:30:22,159
to 1 40 hours to a one hour documentary

875
00:30:25,350 --> 00:30:23,840
and i got to say it

876
00:30:28,549 --> 00:30:25,360
i pretty much held to that sometimes i

877
00:30:31,110 --> 00:30:28,559
was 60 to 1 sometimes maybe 35 to 1 but

878
00:30:33,269 --> 00:30:31,120
i always hovered around that 40 to 1 and

879
00:30:33,990 --> 00:30:33,279
and and you know the filmmakers if there

880
00:30:35,430 --> 00:30:34,000
are

881
00:30:37,190 --> 00:30:35,440
filmmakers listening to this right now

882
00:30:39,350 --> 00:30:37,200
especially younger filmmakers when i say

883
00:30:41,510 --> 00:30:39,360
younger i mean in your 30s you know even

884
00:30:42,630 --> 00:30:41,520
in your 40s um

885
00:30:44,870 --> 00:30:42,640
is that

886
00:30:46,630 --> 00:30:44,880
craft really matters it really does

887
00:30:47,590 --> 00:30:46,640
matter just being you know as a friend

888
00:30:48,710 --> 00:30:47,600
of mine says just because you know how

889
00:30:50,470 --> 00:30:48,720
to run the software it doesn't mean

890
00:30:51,830 --> 00:30:50,480
you're an editor you know and just

891
00:30:54,389 --> 00:30:51,840
because you can cut something doesn't

892
00:30:56,310 --> 00:30:54,399
mean you know how to tell a story um so

893
00:30:57,830 --> 00:30:56,320
40 to 1

894
00:31:00,230 --> 00:30:57,840
is about where i hover to answer your

895
00:31:02,149 --> 00:31:00,240
question more succinctly why is it that

896
00:31:05,029 --> 00:31:02,159
you emphasize that craft matters see it

897
00:31:06,870 --> 00:31:05,039
seems obvious but it sounds like what's

898
00:31:07,909 --> 00:31:06,880
underneath that is

899
00:31:13,110 --> 00:31:07,919
that

900
00:31:15,110 --> 00:31:13,120
was speaking with jonathan blow he's a

901
00:31:18,549 --> 00:31:15,120
video game designer he was saying hey

902
00:31:20,310 --> 00:31:18,559
kurt right now there's this the ethos in

903
00:31:22,470 --> 00:31:20,320
the industry is that skill matters less

904
00:31:23,909 --> 00:31:22,480
and less he's citing contemporary art

905
00:31:25,669 --> 00:31:23,919
when he says that if you go to an art

906
00:31:27,190 --> 00:31:25,679
gallery contemporary art

907
00:31:29,029 --> 00:31:27,200
it's more about the statement that the

908
00:31:30,230 --> 00:31:29,039
artist is making rather than the craft

909
00:31:32,710 --> 00:31:30,240
behind it if you look at a renaissance

910
00:31:34,310 --> 00:31:32,720
painting it just makes you well

911
00:31:36,549 --> 00:31:34,320
you're in tears looking at how much

912
00:31:37,990 --> 00:31:36,559
artistry went into it so is that behind

913
00:31:42,230 --> 00:31:38,000
what you're saying when you say look

914
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,669
i think

915
00:31:50,470 --> 00:31:48,149
that it's a shame

916
00:31:52,070 --> 00:31:50,480
if the bar is lowered

917
00:31:53,430 --> 00:31:52,080
i think

918
00:31:55,830 --> 00:31:53,440
that

919
00:31:58,310 --> 00:31:55,840
while it may seem to have a place

920
00:32:01,269 --> 00:31:58,320
delivering pablum to the masses

921
00:32:03,909 --> 00:32:01,279
is a shame and a sin

922
00:32:06,389 --> 00:32:03,919
i think elevating people enabling them

923
00:32:08,230 --> 00:32:06,399
to elevate themselves

924
00:32:10,789 --> 00:32:08,240
through

925
00:32:12,789 --> 00:32:10,799
having the kind of craft that enables

926
00:32:14,950 --> 00:32:12,799
you to elevate your own storytelling

927
00:32:17,350 --> 00:32:14,960
your own art

928
00:32:19,269 --> 00:32:17,360
then in process elevates them you just

929
00:32:19,990 --> 00:32:19,279
gave me the perfect example of looking

930
00:32:21,029 --> 00:32:20,000
at

931
00:32:23,110 --> 00:32:21,039
you know

932
00:32:24,230 --> 00:32:23,120
a renoir

933
00:32:25,750 --> 00:32:24,240
you know

934
00:32:29,350 --> 00:32:25,760
or picasso

935
00:32:31,269 --> 00:32:29,360
a serious craft there today

936
00:32:33,269 --> 00:32:31,279
you know

937
00:32:35,269 --> 00:32:33,279
i'll give you the alternative example we

938
00:32:39,350 --> 00:32:35,279
heard the story recently about the whole

939
00:32:40,950 --> 00:32:39,360
um fans only thing uh and how um you

940
00:32:43,350 --> 00:32:40,960
know it's like a semi-pornish kind of

941
00:32:44,870 --> 00:32:43,360
site and how uh that people were making

942
00:32:46,310 --> 00:32:44,880
lots of money and this woman who was

943
00:32:49,029 --> 00:32:46,320
once a nurse was

944
00:32:50,950 --> 00:32:49,039
well in the article she called herself a

945
00:32:51,830 --> 00:32:50,960
content creator technically speaking

946
00:32:54,070 --> 00:32:51,840
she's

947
00:32:57,509 --> 00:32:54,080
correct i suppose

948
00:32:59,590 --> 00:32:57,519
but do not conflate

949
00:33:01,430 --> 00:32:59,600
content creator and producer

950
00:33:03,990 --> 00:33:01,440
and artist anymore and that's what's

951
00:33:07,430 --> 00:33:04,000
happening is we're conflating artists

952
00:33:10,630 --> 00:33:07,440
with content creators by having a woman

953
00:33:11,830 --> 00:33:10,640
who made who's making 250 000 a month

954
00:33:15,190 --> 00:33:11,840
doing what

955
00:33:17,110 --> 00:33:15,200
pictures of her tna

956
00:33:18,870 --> 00:33:17,120
that's content creation now

957
00:33:20,470 --> 00:33:18,880
i've been doing this for 30 years and

958
00:33:21,990 --> 00:33:20,480
i'm up against

959
00:33:24,870 --> 00:33:22,000
a woman

960
00:33:27,430 --> 00:33:24,880
showing pictures of her tna and then in

961
00:33:29,590 --> 00:33:27,440
an article stating stating i'm a content

962
00:33:31,430 --> 00:33:29,600
creator and i have a right to blah blah

963
00:33:32,789 --> 00:33:31,440
blah

964
00:33:35,269 --> 00:33:32,799
no

965
00:33:37,590 --> 00:33:35,279
so i don't want to so it's coming from i

966
00:33:39,750 --> 00:33:37,600
don't want to see the bar tick tock and

967
00:33:41,190 --> 00:33:39,760
youtube clips and instagram stuff and

968
00:33:42,789 --> 00:33:41,200
the bar comes down

969
00:33:44,789 --> 00:33:42,799
hey i'm not against entertainment you

970
00:33:46,470 --> 00:33:44,799
know i'm really not against a chuckle

971
00:33:49,029 --> 00:33:46,480
and a laugh and i'm not against low brow

972
00:33:51,269 --> 00:33:49,039
entertainment even that's fine

973
00:33:52,710 --> 00:33:51,279
but don't

974
00:33:54,230 --> 00:33:52,720
and what what is it

975
00:33:56,710 --> 00:33:54,240
don't don't piss on my back and tell me

976
00:33:59,830 --> 00:33:56,720
it's raining mm-hmm mm-hmm you know it

977
00:34:01,509 --> 00:33:59,840
is you're not a content creator um

978
00:34:02,870 --> 00:34:01,519
so i'm actually gonna have to i'm gonna

979
00:34:04,789 --> 00:34:02,880
have to relinquish that term because i

980
00:34:06,710 --> 00:34:04,799
i'm losing that battle so fine you're a

981
00:34:08,389 --> 00:34:06,720
content creator but you're not an artist

982
00:34:10,710 --> 00:34:08,399
you're not a film producer you're not a

983
00:34:12,470 --> 00:34:10,720
storyteller you're not even really a

984
00:34:14,550 --> 00:34:12,480
creator capital c

985
00:34:16,149 --> 00:34:14,560
don't don't don't do a tick tock video

986
00:34:17,750 --> 00:34:16,159
of you punching your brother in the nuts

987
00:34:20,470 --> 00:34:17,760
and call it art

988
00:34:22,389 --> 00:34:20,480
you know so i'm

989
00:34:23,990 --> 00:34:22,399
i'm not against that but i am kind of up

990
00:34:27,829 --> 00:34:24,000
against it because i'm still putting

991
00:34:31,669 --> 00:34:29,510
i want to ask you a specific filmmaking

992
00:34:33,190 --> 00:34:31,679
question yeah yeah please that's that's

993
00:34:35,430 --> 00:34:33,200
that's why i'm here they're great in one

994
00:34:37,909 --> 00:34:35,440
of your survivorman series

995
00:34:39,669 --> 00:34:37,919
at times you would cut in you would put

996
00:34:41,430 --> 00:34:39,679
the black bars now it's already a low

997
00:34:45,030 --> 00:34:41,440
resolution show in the sense that it's

998
00:34:46,790 --> 00:34:45,040
480p in 2004 2005 and so on and i'm

999
00:34:49,589 --> 00:34:46,800
wondering and i have a specific clip

1000
00:34:51,829 --> 00:34:49,599
here just as a filmmaker i'm

1001
00:34:54,069 --> 00:34:51,839
interested why did you choose

1002
00:34:55,510 --> 00:34:54,079
to put yeah i have it here can i just

1003
00:34:56,869 --> 00:34:55,520
link it to you so that you can you show

1004
00:34:59,910 --> 00:34:56,879
it to me yeah

1005
00:35:01,910 --> 00:34:59,920
okay i'm getting an ad of course

1006
00:35:04,230 --> 00:35:01,920
that's it it's your own doing you're

1007
00:35:05,750 --> 00:35:04,240
making a couple sense right there ah

1008
00:35:07,829 --> 00:35:05,760
that's funny hang on let me turn that

1009
00:35:10,390 --> 00:35:07,839
off let me turn that off let me go there

1010
00:35:11,670 --> 00:35:10,400
no actually you're highlighting a um a

1011
00:35:12,870 --> 00:35:11,680
glitch in the uploading to youtube

1012
00:35:14,470 --> 00:35:12,880
that's all that is that that was

1013
00:35:15,750 --> 00:35:14,480
supposed to be fixed that's nothing more

1014
00:35:17,510 --> 00:35:15,760
than a glitch it was supposed to be

1015
00:35:18,550 --> 00:35:17,520
fixed you see even after all these years

1016
00:35:20,390 --> 00:35:18,560
and 30 years of filmmaking and

1017
00:35:22,150 --> 00:35:20,400
everything else stuff gets done and then

1018
00:35:23,910 --> 00:35:22,160
you come back and look and you go what

1019
00:35:26,870 --> 00:35:23,920
why is that there and you go and then

1020
00:35:28,470 --> 00:35:26,880
you call you hey luke why why is it oh

1021
00:35:29,910 --> 00:35:28,480
that's a great story man okay can you

1022
00:35:31,670 --> 00:35:29,920
re-upload it please that's just

1023
00:35:32,470 --> 00:35:31,680
something that needs to be fixed but i

1024
00:35:34,230 --> 00:35:32,480
thought

1025
00:35:35,670 --> 00:35:34,240
there's this artistic choice there's a

1026
00:35:37,109 --> 00:35:35,680
reason because i've seen it more than

1027
00:35:39,030 --> 00:35:37,119
once

1028
00:35:41,109 --> 00:35:39,040
i know and it has

1029
00:35:43,589 --> 00:35:41,119
how the heck is that a glitch

1030
00:35:45,910 --> 00:35:43,599
i do well still to this okay recently i

1031
00:35:47,589 --> 00:35:45,920
was working with um team rubicon and

1032
00:35:49,270 --> 00:35:47,599
cleaning up at hurricane ida and i was

1033
00:35:50,950 --> 00:35:49,280
with the four filmmakers there the media

1034
00:35:52,310 --> 00:35:50,960
team and it was a lot of fun because

1035
00:35:53,750 --> 00:35:52,320
they were all young and they they did

1036
00:35:57,349 --> 00:35:53,760
listen to things i had to say which was

1037
00:35:59,190 --> 00:35:57,359
fun for me but right in the end there

1038
00:36:01,109 --> 00:35:59,200
the guy delivered the final cut we were

1039
00:36:02,470 --> 00:36:01,119
working on for that week

1040
00:36:03,750 --> 00:36:02,480
and he said off i'll shoot it over to

1041
00:36:05,349 --> 00:36:03,760
you less now i could have said fine i'll

1042
00:36:07,190 --> 00:36:05,359
watch it when i get back to the hotel

1043
00:36:11,510 --> 00:36:07,200
right

1044
00:36:13,430 --> 00:36:11,520
oh i'm gonna put it on now i watched it

1045
00:36:14,790 --> 00:36:13,440
total big faux pas audio glitch he

1046
00:36:16,710 --> 00:36:14,800
completely missed and it would have gone

1047
00:36:18,790 --> 00:36:16,720
edited gone up to youtube right and i

1048
00:36:19,990 --> 00:36:18,800
said john is that supposed to be like

1049
00:36:21,030 --> 00:36:20,000
that and he goes what do you mean he

1050
00:36:22,950 --> 00:36:21,040
looks and goes

1051
00:36:24,390 --> 00:36:22,960
oh

1052
00:36:27,109 --> 00:36:24,400
then he's like because he'd already

1053
00:36:28,550 --> 00:36:27,119
uploaded it to youtube so you know hey

1054
00:36:30,470 --> 00:36:28,560
yeah we all make mistakes as well as the

1055
00:36:31,990 --> 00:36:30,480
short answer there but um but that i'll

1056
00:36:33,430 --> 00:36:32,000
tell you another story on that you know

1057
00:36:35,270 --> 00:36:33,440
we'll go back to this whole thing about

1058
00:36:37,190 --> 00:36:35,280
content creators and artists and so on

1059
00:36:38,390 --> 00:36:37,200
so i am i also was working with an

1060
00:36:39,910 --> 00:36:38,400
individual

1061
00:36:41,109 --> 00:36:39,920
and we had a lot of broadcast delivery

1062
00:36:44,069 --> 00:36:41,119
to do and he'd never done broadcast

1063
00:36:46,069 --> 00:36:44,079
delivery before okay and it was a year

1064
00:36:47,109 --> 00:36:46,079
of conflict because

1065
00:36:49,670 --> 00:36:47,119
he had

1066
00:36:52,390 --> 00:36:49,680
been used to only uploading to online

1067
00:36:55,109 --> 00:36:52,400
under his own control no broadcast

1068
00:36:57,109 --> 00:36:55,119
delivery well you've got to understand

1069
00:36:58,950 --> 00:36:57,119
when you go pro

1070
00:37:01,109 --> 00:36:58,960
you know there is a difference

1071
00:37:03,270 --> 00:37:01,119
between uploading to vimeo

1072
00:37:04,550 --> 00:37:03,280
and and sending your work to discovery

1073
00:37:06,390 --> 00:37:04,560
channel

1074
00:37:08,950 --> 00:37:06,400
and filmmakers need to understand that

1075
00:37:11,030 --> 00:37:08,960
just because you could be a youtube star

1076
00:37:12,950 --> 00:37:11,040
when you go to deliver to

1077
00:37:15,349 --> 00:37:12,960
a e or discovery channel national

1078
00:37:18,390 --> 00:37:15,359
geographic you better bloody well have

1079
00:37:22,390 --> 00:37:18,400
every frame in the right spot every

1080
00:37:25,510 --> 00:37:22,400
color every audio it's very specific and

1081
00:37:26,950 --> 00:37:25,520
very detailed and very tedious

1082
00:37:29,990 --> 00:37:26,960
and a lot of hard work and i think a lot

1083
00:37:31,349 --> 00:37:30,000
of filmmakers don't understand

1084
00:37:33,910 --> 00:37:31,359
how

1085
00:37:36,069 --> 00:37:33,920
intense delivery to a broadcast network

1086
00:37:38,310 --> 00:37:36,079
like my deliveries right now to pbs uh

1087
00:37:40,870 --> 00:37:38,320
stations uh american public television

1088
00:37:42,870 --> 00:37:40,880
for the wild harvest series

1089
00:37:45,910 --> 00:37:42,880
you know russell there's there's a whole

1090
00:37:47,430 --> 00:37:45,920
the specs there's three sheets of specs

1091
00:37:49,190 --> 00:37:47,440
and you have to be bang on on every

1092
00:37:52,470 --> 00:37:49,200
single one of those specs

1093
00:37:54,310 --> 00:37:53,190
and

1094
00:37:56,790 --> 00:37:54,320
it's important

1095
00:37:58,870 --> 00:37:56,800
no i was gonna say this is this is vital

1096
00:38:00,390 --> 00:37:58,880
personally i find it annoying because

1097
00:38:01,910 --> 00:38:00,400
there's no creativity there what i've

1098
00:38:03,670 --> 00:38:01,920
done because i have a documentary that i

1099
00:38:06,230 --> 00:38:03,680
gave to itunes

1100
00:38:07,750 --> 00:38:06,240
i used a distributor and then they take

1101
00:38:09,829 --> 00:38:07,760
care of that and then they send me back

1102
00:38:11,349 --> 00:38:09,839
these pages of notes why is it that in

1103
00:38:13,109 --> 00:38:11,359
this frame there's a small

1104
00:38:14,790 --> 00:38:13,119
black line over here

1105
00:38:16,630 --> 00:38:14,800
why is it that the audio does so and so

1106
00:38:18,710 --> 00:38:16,640
it peaks over here well peaking is a

1107
00:38:20,790 --> 00:38:18,720
simple issue to fix so i find it

1108
00:38:22,390 --> 00:38:20,800
annoying is there artistry in that in

1109
00:38:24,150 --> 00:38:22,400
meeting the

1110
00:38:25,030 --> 00:38:24,160
the distributor's requirements no

1111
00:38:26,069 --> 00:38:25,040
there's

1112
00:38:27,510 --> 00:38:26,079
no well

1113
00:38:29,589 --> 00:38:27,520
two ways to answer that

1114
00:38:31,349 --> 00:38:29,599
if the glitches are real glitches you

1115
00:38:32,790 --> 00:38:31,359
want them to be known you want to solve

1116
00:38:33,990 --> 00:38:32,800
shame on you they've got to be fish i

1117
00:38:35,589 --> 00:38:34,000
i've never

1118
00:38:38,069 --> 00:38:35,599
in all my years with discovery channel i

1119
00:38:41,510 --> 00:38:38,079
never delivered a show with glitches

1120
00:38:42,870 --> 00:38:41,520
uh because we no way we would not um

1121
00:38:43,910 --> 00:38:42,880
this recent round of deliveries there

1122
00:38:45,030 --> 00:38:43,920
was a whole bunch and that's what i was

1123
00:38:47,270 --> 00:38:45,040
saying was working with an individual

1124
00:38:50,390 --> 00:38:47,280
who wasn't familiar because with you

1125
00:38:52,150 --> 00:38:50,400
vimeo or youtube ah

1126
00:38:54,230 --> 00:38:52,160
right it's like that and just put it

1127
00:38:56,069 --> 00:38:54,240
just upload it it's fine

1128
00:38:58,950 --> 00:38:56,079
it's not fine when somebody on quality

1129
00:39:01,349 --> 00:38:58,960
control on the other end is looking

1130
00:39:03,430 --> 00:39:01,359
the this is different from

1131
00:39:05,829 --> 00:39:03,440
notes on your content those are that's a

1132
00:39:07,109 --> 00:39:05,839
whole different level of interaction

1133
00:39:08,790 --> 00:39:07,119
with the networks when they're picking

1134
00:39:10,390 --> 00:39:08,800
apart your work

1135
00:39:11,910 --> 00:39:10,400
and they're giving you creative notes

1136
00:39:14,710 --> 00:39:11,920
and for people who can't see this i'm

1137
00:39:16,630 --> 00:39:14,720
doing air quotes around creative uh so

1138
00:39:18,710 --> 00:39:16,640
yes i mean i don't think the tech specs

1139
00:39:20,790 --> 00:39:18,720
hurt the artistry at all though that's

1140
00:39:22,390 --> 00:39:20,800
you know deliver it deliver it right

1141
00:39:23,990 --> 00:39:22,400
it's going to a network which i think

1142
00:39:25,349 --> 00:39:24,000
people should follow so this stuff i

1143
00:39:27,270 --> 00:39:25,359
just did with team rubicon we're

1144
00:39:29,430 --> 00:39:27,280
uploading that to uh only to social

1145
00:39:31,510 --> 00:39:29,440
media but i went in and i and i and i

1146
00:39:33,589 --> 00:39:31,520
remember saying hey john you know the

1147
00:39:35,109 --> 00:39:33,599
handle on this little shot you should

1148
00:39:36,550 --> 00:39:35,119
the handle's a bit long

1149
00:39:38,470 --> 00:39:36,560
you see me getting ready to talk you

1150
00:39:39,270 --> 00:39:38,480
don't see me talking and john says oh

1151
00:39:41,030 --> 00:39:39,280
yeah

1152
00:39:44,150 --> 00:39:41,040
took it out go now doesn't that smoother

1153
00:39:47,750 --> 00:39:44,160
yeah it's way smoother right so that

1154
00:39:50,150 --> 00:39:47,760
there is a craft in there you know

1155
00:39:52,150 --> 00:39:50,160
you know crap my editor will will my

1156
00:39:53,430 --> 00:39:52,160
very fair will often say like

1157
00:39:56,790 --> 00:39:53,440
you know

1158
00:39:58,390 --> 00:39:56,800
if you see that an editor has done a cut

1159
00:39:59,829 --> 00:39:58,400
on a blink

1160
00:40:01,430 --> 00:39:59,839
so that so the person on camera has

1161
00:40:03,589 --> 00:40:01,440
blinked

1162
00:40:04,710 --> 00:40:03,599
that's a self-taught cutter that's not

1163
00:40:07,030 --> 00:40:04,720
in it that's someone who does not know

1164
00:40:08,950 --> 00:40:07,040
the craft you know

1165
00:40:11,349 --> 00:40:08,960
what are some of the techniques you use

1166
00:40:13,510 --> 00:40:11,359
to make your footage or your episode

1167
00:40:17,829 --> 00:40:13,520
more engaging when there was a lack of

1168
00:40:23,109 --> 00:40:21,270
well engaging is an interesting word

1169
00:40:24,790 --> 00:40:23,119
story story story you know you hear that

1170
00:40:26,630 --> 00:40:24,800
content is king story will always be

1171
00:40:29,270 --> 00:40:26,640
king so that's mainly done during the

1172
00:40:31,750 --> 00:40:29,280
editing no no this no no this is this is

1173
00:40:34,630 --> 00:40:31,760
me filming in the field you know i have

1174
00:40:37,030 --> 00:40:34,640
see you know good in good out

1175
00:40:38,470 --> 00:40:37,040
bad in bad out if i deliver my editor

1176
00:40:40,710 --> 00:40:38,480
crap he's got nothing it doesn't matter

1177
00:40:42,150 --> 00:40:40,720
how good of an editor he is now not

1178
00:40:43,750 --> 00:40:42,160
enough shows think that one through

1179
00:40:45,750 --> 00:40:43,760
because they take crap from their field

1180
00:40:48,390 --> 00:40:45,760
and they just edit it any old way they

1181
00:40:50,230 --> 00:40:48,400
want you know um my guy had to had to

1182
00:40:52,390 --> 00:40:50,240
edit really intense stories but i had to

1183
00:40:53,430 --> 00:40:52,400
bring him intense stories

1184
00:40:56,309 --> 00:40:53,440
so

1185
00:40:59,109 --> 00:40:56,319
you know one of my ways

1186
00:41:04,230 --> 00:40:59,119
was to make sure i brought him a very

1187
00:41:05,430 --> 00:41:04,240
strong story so so that's now now

1188
00:41:07,670 --> 00:41:05,440
but to answer your question i'm in the

1189
00:41:10,470 --> 00:41:07,680
field so let's go there i'm in the field

1190
00:41:12,710 --> 00:41:10,480
and i'm lacking in content let's say

1191
00:41:14,550 --> 00:41:12,720
i'm lacking

1192
00:41:16,150 --> 00:41:14,560
i have to really there's two things i

1193
00:41:17,670 --> 00:41:16,160
did one is i have to either rack my

1194
00:41:19,589 --> 00:41:17,680
brain to think what can i pull out of

1195
00:41:21,910 --> 00:41:19,599
this area this next thing what have i

1196
00:41:23,589 --> 00:41:21,920
got here where's my story here and

1197
00:41:24,790 --> 00:41:23,599
sometimes i would just start filming

1198
00:41:26,950 --> 00:41:24,800
stuff

1199
00:41:28,870 --> 00:41:26,960
because you never know

1200
00:41:30,710 --> 00:41:28,880
the other side of it is

1201
00:41:33,109 --> 00:41:30,720
i would go in i'm going to go in the

1202
00:41:35,510 --> 00:41:33,119
desert today let's say and i would have

1203
00:41:37,430 --> 00:41:35,520
a a a list of things that i know i want

1204
00:41:39,030 --> 00:41:37,440
to capture for this particular story i'm

1205
00:41:40,390 --> 00:41:39,040
going to tell well it's the desert i

1206
00:41:43,670 --> 00:41:40,400
should tell a story about eating

1207
00:41:45,829 --> 00:41:43,680
strawberry pincushion uh cactus fruits

1208
00:41:47,190 --> 00:41:45,839
okay but the problem is in my situation

1209
00:41:49,349 --> 00:41:47,200
if it's day three and i haven't been

1210
00:41:51,109 --> 00:41:49,359
eating i forget so i pull out a crumpled

1211
00:41:52,230 --> 00:41:51,119
old piece of paper out of my pocket oh

1212
00:41:55,589 --> 00:41:52,240
yeah

1213
00:41:57,829 --> 00:41:55,599
film that i'll go and now i go and i

1214
00:42:00,870 --> 00:41:57,839
film it so i keep myself on track with a

1215
00:42:04,309 --> 00:42:00,880
short list of don't forget to film this

1216
00:42:05,990 --> 00:42:04,319
kind of list and i also you know and

1217
00:42:08,309 --> 00:42:06,000
then maybe i just have a good eye for

1218
00:42:09,750 --> 00:42:08,319
looking around going okay well there's a

1219
00:42:11,670 --> 00:42:09,760
little bit of story just in this next

1220
00:42:13,190 --> 00:42:11,680
moment right here let's capture this now

1221
00:42:15,190 --> 00:42:13,200
what's the difference between a story

1222
00:42:17,430 --> 00:42:15,200
and just filming an event so for example

1223
00:42:18,710 --> 00:42:17,440
that strawberry pin cushion

1224
00:42:20,309 --> 00:42:18,720
if it's written on a paper as a bullet

1225
00:42:21,750 --> 00:42:20,319
point you say film myself eating

1226
00:42:23,030 --> 00:42:21,760
strawberry and finding strawberry

1227
00:42:25,829 --> 00:42:23,040
pincushion

1228
00:42:27,510 --> 00:42:25,839
okay is that the story or do you somehow

1229
00:42:28,790 --> 00:42:27,520
add some elements around that to make it

1230
00:42:31,589 --> 00:42:28,800
a story

1231
00:42:33,190 --> 00:42:31,599
essentially

1232
00:42:34,950 --> 00:42:33,200
i think what i do

1233
00:42:37,430 --> 00:42:34,960
is i say

1234
00:42:38,309 --> 00:42:37,440
oh well what's the story first of all

1235
00:42:40,550 --> 00:42:38,319
it's

1236
00:42:42,550 --> 00:42:40,560
this guy the guy happens to be me

1237
00:42:45,990 --> 00:42:42,560
and he's gonna do this thing

1238
00:42:47,510 --> 00:42:46,000
okay the big one for me would be how

1239
00:42:49,430 --> 00:42:47,520
how is he going to do this thing what

1240
00:42:50,630 --> 00:42:49,440
are the hows that i can answer the first

1241
00:42:51,750 --> 00:42:50,640
towel is how do you find these bloody

1242
00:42:52,630 --> 00:42:51,760
things

1243
00:42:54,150 --> 00:42:52,640
okay

1244
00:42:55,990 --> 00:42:54,160
second how is all right how do you how

1245
00:42:57,670 --> 00:42:56,000
do you harvest these things do you know

1246
00:42:59,829 --> 00:42:57,680
okay now

1247
00:43:02,470 --> 00:42:59,839
there's two ways to harvest it

1248
00:43:05,030 --> 00:43:02,480
which one looks the best for camera

1249
00:43:07,670 --> 00:43:05,040
because you want things to look great on

1250
00:43:09,829 --> 00:43:07,680
camera i could just bend over and pick

1251
00:43:11,270 --> 00:43:09,839
up a pin cushion chariot

1252
00:43:13,589 --> 00:43:11,280
right or

1253
00:43:15,910 --> 00:43:13,599
i could get down on all fours

1254
00:43:17,430 --> 00:43:15,920
i could talk about avoiding rattlesnakes

1255
00:43:19,670 --> 00:43:17,440
i could talk about avoiding the spines

1256
00:43:21,510 --> 00:43:19,680
of the cactus i could show a tricky

1257
00:43:24,230 --> 00:43:21,520
little method for being able to use a

1258
00:43:25,670 --> 00:43:24,240
pair of tongs to pull off the the the

1259
00:43:26,390 --> 00:43:25,680
fruit rather than getting your fingers

1260
00:43:28,710 --> 00:43:26,400
stuck

1261
00:43:30,790 --> 00:43:28,720
all of both situations i'm just picking

1262
00:43:33,190 --> 00:43:30,800
a cherry off of a bush

1263
00:43:34,630 --> 00:43:33,200
i'm just i forget that it's a cactus but

1264
00:43:36,630 --> 00:43:34,640
you know in both situations i'm doing

1265
00:43:38,069 --> 00:43:36,640
one thing i'm picking something but one

1266
00:43:40,550 --> 00:43:38,079
situation i bend over and pick the other

1267
00:43:42,870 --> 00:43:40,560
one i've just given you three

1268
00:43:44,550 --> 00:43:42,880
pieces of information over how to do it

1269
00:43:46,470 --> 00:43:44,560
that's uh that's how i get the story in

1270
00:43:49,109 --> 00:43:46,480
something what's the how how is this all

1271
00:43:51,750 --> 00:43:49,119
going going down what are the nuances

1272
00:43:54,069 --> 00:43:51,760
that nobody at home would ever guess on

1273
00:43:56,069 --> 00:43:54,079
their of their own accord you know what

1274
00:43:57,670 --> 00:43:56,079
do i need them to know

1275
00:43:58,950 --> 00:43:57,680
fill them in fill them in tell them it's

1276
00:44:01,109 --> 00:43:58,960
all interesting

1277
00:44:02,870 --> 00:44:01,119
and what is interesting you can pull

1278
00:44:10,069 --> 00:44:02,880
from the edit you know

1279
00:44:12,470 --> 00:44:11,349
some people will be wondering well what

1280
00:44:14,230 --> 00:44:12,480
the heck does this have to do with

1281
00:44:15,670 --> 00:44:14,240
theories of everything now as you know

1282
00:44:17,349 --> 00:44:15,680
theories of everything have to do with

1283
00:44:19,109 --> 00:44:17,359
physics there's gravity and then there's

1284
00:44:20,710 --> 00:44:19,119
the standard model how do you unify them

1285
00:44:22,710 --> 00:44:20,720
but it's also like what are the

1286
00:44:25,109 --> 00:44:22,720
fundamental laws that govern us so

1287
00:44:28,950 --> 00:44:25,119
consciousness may have a role to play

1288
00:44:32,790 --> 00:44:30,710
what does

1289
00:44:35,510 --> 00:44:32,800
what you do have to do with the theory

1290
00:44:39,030 --> 00:44:37,109
how would you answer that

1291
00:44:40,309 --> 00:44:39,040
no look here's one way theory of

1292
00:44:42,069 --> 00:44:40,319
everything has the word everything so no

1293
00:44:43,829 --> 00:44:42,079
matter what if i'm drinking tea it's

1294
00:44:45,750 --> 00:44:43,839
technically theory of everything

1295
00:44:47,510 --> 00:44:45,760
but is there some other way so the way

1296
00:44:48,390 --> 00:44:47,520
that i position theories of everything

1297
00:44:50,069 --> 00:44:48,400
theories of everything is an

1298
00:44:52,150 --> 00:44:50,079
investigation it's a theoretical physics

1299
00:44:54,309 --> 00:44:52,160
free will consciousness and god

1300
00:44:55,750 --> 00:44:54,319
because i see those as intimately tied

1301
00:44:57,670 --> 00:44:55,760
okay using that as your jumping off

1302
00:45:00,230 --> 00:44:57,680
point if someone was to ask you how the

1303
00:45:01,589 --> 00:45:00,240
heck does what you do maybe maybe it's

1304
00:45:07,910 --> 00:45:01,599
your mission maybe it's your shows how

1305
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:12,309
most of the time

1306
00:45:21,270 --> 00:45:15,910
i jokingly say i walk around in a mild

1307
00:45:24,390 --> 00:45:22,790
it's almost a

1308
00:45:27,109 --> 00:45:24,400
slight

1309
00:45:28,950 --> 00:45:27,119
addictive habit of mine

1310
00:45:30,950 --> 00:45:28,960
and yet

1311
00:45:33,990 --> 00:45:30,960
i've learned to befriend it over the

1312
00:45:35,030 --> 00:45:34,000
years it doesn't stop me

1313
00:45:38,309 --> 00:45:35,040
it doesn't

1314
00:45:39,750 --> 00:45:38,319
spiral me into depression or anxiety

1315
00:45:42,069 --> 00:45:39,760
because if you're constantly going

1316
00:45:42,950 --> 00:45:42,079
what's this all about

1317
00:45:44,550 --> 00:45:42,960
why

1318
00:45:48,150 --> 00:45:44,560
how

1319
00:45:52,309 --> 00:45:48,160
you can really get bogged down in the in

1320
00:45:52,319 --> 00:45:55,510
i use it

1321
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,230
to

1322
00:46:02,630 --> 00:46:00,710
in many ways

1323
00:46:04,950 --> 00:46:02,640
calm me down

1324
00:46:07,190 --> 00:46:04,960
because

1325
00:46:09,270 --> 00:46:07,200
we have this tug of war this battle for

1326
00:46:11,750 --> 00:46:09,280
our consciousness

1327
00:46:14,390 --> 00:46:13,510
i need

1328
00:46:22,870 --> 00:46:14,400
to

1329
00:46:24,550 --> 00:46:22,880
i die and am i really a piece of energy

1330
00:46:27,030 --> 00:46:24,560
floating through space is this just

1331
00:46:28,630 --> 00:46:27,040
simply a biological thing that my spirit

1332
00:46:31,510 --> 00:46:28,640
and my energy have occupied at this

1333
00:46:36,309 --> 00:46:31,520
moment we have all of that versus

1334
00:46:39,910 --> 00:46:37,270
and

1335
00:46:41,910 --> 00:46:39,920
i've been in between those for so long

1336
00:46:44,230 --> 00:46:41,920
in my life when i'm really frustrated it

1337
00:46:45,990 --> 00:46:44,240
bothers me to be in between because

1338
00:46:47,589 --> 00:46:46,000
why am i so dumb that i just really want

1339
00:46:50,550 --> 00:46:47,599
this piece of cheesecake and you know

1340
00:46:52,630 --> 00:46:50,560
over here i'm thinking about god

1341
00:46:54,390 --> 00:46:52,640
and so i've

1342
00:46:57,109 --> 00:46:54,400
been able to

1343
00:46:59,910 --> 00:46:57,119
let go of my existential crises when

1344
00:47:01,030 --> 00:46:59,920
they are detrimental to my own step

1345
00:47:05,510 --> 00:47:01,040
forward

1346
00:47:08,710 --> 00:47:05,520
and say look i am this physical being

1347
00:47:09,990 --> 00:47:08,720
all i really have

1348
00:47:11,430 --> 00:47:10,000
and that's even wrong there's gonna say

1349
00:47:13,109 --> 00:47:11,440
all i really have is this flesh in this

1350
00:47:13,990 --> 00:47:13,119
blood these muscles this brain but of

1351
00:47:15,829 --> 00:47:14,000
course

1352
00:47:17,750 --> 00:47:15,839
i'm happy to say that i'm quite certain

1353
00:47:18,950 --> 00:47:17,760
we could do so much more with the energy

1354
00:47:21,190 --> 00:47:18,960
of our minds

1355
00:47:23,829 --> 00:47:21,200
uh were we to be a little more advanced

1356
00:47:25,510 --> 00:47:23,839
and a little more skilled

1357
00:47:27,270 --> 00:47:25,520
that in the end

1358
00:47:31,670 --> 00:47:27,280
i try to bring it back to now here's

1359
00:47:36,069 --> 00:47:33,910
i still think in the end

1360
00:47:40,309 --> 00:47:36,079
that

1361
00:47:41,910 --> 00:47:40,319
expressing love and not hating

1362
00:47:44,309 --> 00:47:41,920
express giving

1363
00:47:46,550 --> 00:47:44,319
and not just taking

1364
00:47:49,109 --> 00:47:46,560
all i know is it my concept of the

1365
00:47:52,710 --> 00:47:49,119
ethers the great grand grand beyond and

1366
00:47:55,270 --> 00:47:52,720
god and spirit and energy and life force

1367
00:47:56,309 --> 00:47:55,280
feels like it lands in a proper

1368
00:47:58,710 --> 00:47:56,319
place

1369
00:48:01,349 --> 00:47:58,720
if i am not being selfish if i am not

1370
00:48:02,790 --> 00:48:01,359
all about myself and and which i can be

1371
00:48:04,230 --> 00:48:02,800
very easily

1372
00:48:05,510 --> 00:48:04,240
and

1373
00:48:08,790 --> 00:48:05,520
so

1374
00:48:11,349 --> 00:48:08,800
my work moving forward

1375
00:48:13,910 --> 00:48:11,359
i believe has to somehow

1376
00:48:16,630 --> 00:48:13,920
fall into that same place

1377
00:48:20,150 --> 00:48:16,640
that my reasoning is falling into

1378
00:48:21,589 --> 00:48:20,160
which is yeah yeah of course there is

1379
00:48:24,069 --> 00:48:21,599
something greater here of course there

1380
00:48:26,470 --> 00:48:24,079
is a an energy

1381
00:48:28,549 --> 00:48:26,480
that is part of all things

1382
00:48:31,030 --> 00:48:28,559
and it's whether people name it or

1383
00:48:32,549 --> 00:48:31,040
orthodox it or box it up or not it's not

1384
00:48:34,710 --> 00:48:32,559
the point that

1385
00:48:36,790 --> 00:48:34,720
it's as far as i'm concerned

1386
00:48:39,030 --> 00:48:36,800
there's that yes there is the biological

1387
00:48:41,190 --> 00:48:39,040
sludge that came from the swamps of so

1388
00:48:43,750 --> 00:48:41,200
so sure

1389
00:48:47,109 --> 00:48:43,760
i will not

1390
00:48:49,270 --> 00:48:47,119
i do not feel

1391
00:48:51,109 --> 00:48:49,280
that i'm just biological because if that

1392
00:48:52,309 --> 00:48:51,119
was true i wouldn't give a crap about

1393
00:48:55,589 --> 00:48:52,319
anything

1394
00:48:58,150 --> 00:48:55,599
so it it it

1395
00:49:00,309 --> 00:48:58,160
it brackets what i do because it causes

1396
00:49:02,950 --> 00:49:00,319
me to say okay if i'm gonna create

1397
00:49:05,510 --> 00:49:02,960
something it's got to mean something

1398
00:49:07,030 --> 00:49:05,520
it's got to give it's got to be from

1399
00:49:08,790 --> 00:49:07,040
love if you will

1400
00:49:10,470 --> 00:49:08,800
um have i ever done things just for

1401
00:49:12,470 --> 00:49:10,480
money on occasion i have sure because i

1402
00:49:14,470 --> 00:49:12,480
needed money but

1403
00:49:16,470 --> 00:49:14,480
i'm not in that place anymore so now so

1404
00:49:18,470 --> 00:49:16,480
yes how does it govern

1405
00:49:20,150 --> 00:49:18,480
it governs by reminding me how big

1406
00:49:21,990 --> 00:49:20,160
everything is

1407
00:49:23,829 --> 00:49:22,000
but my touch this goes back to our first

1408
00:49:25,510 --> 00:49:23,839
convert part of the conversation but my

1409
00:49:28,630 --> 00:49:25,520
but my touchstone

1410
00:49:29,750 --> 00:49:28,640
with everybody watching

1411
00:49:31,349 --> 00:49:29,760
is that i still want to have that piece

1412
00:49:33,430 --> 00:49:31,359
of cheesecake

1413
00:49:35,750 --> 00:49:33,440
regardless of this bigger thinking no

1414
00:49:37,589 --> 00:49:35,760
matter how big our thoughts are

1415
00:49:39,829 --> 00:49:37,599
i still want to go home

1416
00:49:43,109 --> 00:49:39,839
and be with my wife and have a glass of

1417
00:49:44,710 --> 00:49:43,119
wine no matter how existentially i i'm

1418
00:49:46,390 --> 00:49:44,720
meandering why do you see that as being

1419
00:49:48,150 --> 00:49:46,400
against what you just said because to me

1420
00:49:49,750 --> 00:49:48,160
let's say the example of wine with your

1421
00:49:51,990 --> 00:49:49,760
wife that's an expression of love you're

1422
00:49:53,990 --> 00:49:52,000
sharing a moment cheesecake alone

1423
00:49:56,150 --> 00:49:54,000
facing a wall scarfing it down that's

1424
00:49:58,150 --> 00:49:56,160
that's different and you know just so

1425
00:49:59,030 --> 00:49:58,160
you know it's not as if it's clear that

1426
00:50:01,750 --> 00:49:59,040
that's

1427
00:50:02,710 --> 00:50:01,760
different because some lines of thinking

1428
00:50:04,710 --> 00:50:02,720
is that

1429
00:50:06,230 --> 00:50:04,720
this universe is fractal-like and that

1430
00:50:08,549 --> 00:50:06,240
these patterns repeat so if you were to

1431
00:50:10,470 --> 00:50:08,559
investigate any phenomenon to its utmost

1432
00:50:12,309 --> 00:50:10,480
degree you'd still end up with a

1433
00:50:14,069 --> 00:50:12,319
reflection of the entire universe and

1434
00:50:16,230 --> 00:50:14,079
that's why some people say you can study

1435
00:50:18,230 --> 00:50:16,240
mathematics you can study logic if you

1436
00:50:20,309 --> 00:50:18,240
do it properly or do it to its extreme

1437
00:50:22,309 --> 00:50:20,319
you can find god if you study even these

1438
00:50:24,230 --> 00:50:22,319
headphones to its extreme because it's a

1439
00:50:25,670 --> 00:50:24,240
creation of god in a sense

1440
00:50:27,109 --> 00:50:25,680
it's a reflection of god then you can

1441
00:50:28,870 --> 00:50:27,119
find god

1442
00:50:30,470 --> 00:50:28,880
but then what i would ask you then can

1443
00:50:32,230 --> 00:50:30,480
can math explain

1444
00:50:34,309 --> 00:50:32,240
then i'm sure it can actually but then

1445
00:50:35,829 --> 00:50:34,319
where does the math rest when you look

1446
00:50:37,030 --> 00:50:35,839
at something like say having a piece a

1447
00:50:39,030 --> 00:50:37,040
cheap piece of cheesecake while staring

1448
00:50:40,630 --> 00:50:39,040
at the corner of a wall that you know

1449
00:50:43,750 --> 00:50:40,640
that

1450
00:50:44,790 --> 00:50:43,760
in the end it is not a positive maneuver

1451
00:50:46,710 --> 00:50:44,800
it is a

1452
00:50:49,109 --> 00:50:46,720
a negative element

1453
00:50:49,990 --> 00:50:49,119
it is a it is it is

1454
00:50:53,510 --> 00:50:50,000
an

1455
00:50:56,870 --> 00:50:55,349
even instinctually in keeping with

1456
00:50:58,710 --> 00:50:56,880
everything that's rolling on it in fact

1457
00:51:02,470 --> 00:50:58,720
it's a it's a pullback to the proper

1458
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:06,790
man have you heard of non-dualism

1459
00:51:10,549 --> 00:51:08,790
uh i've heard of it i couldn't explain

1460
00:51:12,150 --> 00:51:10,559
it to you but okay so the non-dualist

1461
00:51:13,510 --> 00:51:12,160
would say what i have to do is i have to

1462
00:51:14,950 --> 00:51:13,520
i have to go listen to more some more

1463
00:51:16,470 --> 00:51:14,960
sam harris and then i'll get back to you

1464
00:51:17,589 --> 00:51:16,480
all right so non duelist would say i

1465
00:51:21,510 --> 00:51:17,599
don't think sam

1466
00:51:23,750 --> 00:51:21,520
because he has he believes in morality

1467
00:51:25,109 --> 00:51:23,760
objective morality so the non-dualist

1468
00:51:26,710 --> 00:51:25,119
would say i'm not saying i'm an onto us

1469
00:51:28,870 --> 00:51:26,720
i'm just being a mouthpiece

1470
00:51:30,470 --> 00:51:28,880
that there is no two non-dualist right

1471
00:51:32,309 --> 00:51:30,480
there is no two there is no up down

1472
00:51:34,230 --> 00:51:32,319
there's no evil there's no good that

1473
00:51:35,990 --> 00:51:34,240
it's all the same and that in

1474
00:51:37,750 --> 00:51:36,000
it's like the atoms of the universe are

1475
00:51:39,990 --> 00:51:37,760
love because god is love the atoms of

1476
00:51:41,990 --> 00:51:40,000
the universe are love so that even in a

1477
00:51:43,829 --> 00:51:42,000
heinous act like what hitler did there

1478
00:51:45,109 --> 00:51:43,839
was love in that i'm not saying i

1479
00:51:47,270 --> 00:51:45,119
believe this but certain lines of

1480
00:51:49,670 --> 00:51:47,280
thinking would say that

1481
00:51:51,910 --> 00:51:49,680
well i watch too many marvel movies uh

1482
00:51:54,230 --> 00:51:51,920
to to think that everything i i don't i

1483
00:51:57,430 --> 00:51:54,240
don't think i agree with that i i i

1484
00:52:02,150 --> 00:51:58,790
what do i know right but i think that

1485
00:52:05,190 --> 00:52:02,160
hate is hate pain is pain anger is anger

1486
00:52:06,870 --> 00:52:05,200
intent to harm his intent to harm

1487
00:52:08,710 --> 00:52:06,880
um and uh

1488
00:52:10,309 --> 00:52:08,720
you know i i don't

1489
00:52:11,910 --> 00:52:10,319
see i mean

1490
00:52:14,549 --> 00:52:11,920
i know i don't see where you can derive

1491
00:52:16,710 --> 00:52:14,559
the love out of those things

1492
00:52:18,710 --> 00:52:16,720
i i think they are the lack of love you

1493
00:52:19,670 --> 00:52:18,720
know in many ways and they certainly

1494
00:52:22,069 --> 00:52:19,680
exist

1495
00:52:24,069 --> 00:52:22,079
when we don't there's no

1496
00:52:26,790 --> 00:52:24,079
question about the examples of how they

1497
00:52:28,069 --> 00:52:26,800
exist but you asked me about how this

1498
00:52:29,910 --> 00:52:28,079
this um

1499
00:52:31,589 --> 00:52:29,920
questioning of everything you know and

1500
00:52:33,670 --> 00:52:31,599
understanding of everything how it

1501
00:52:35,510 --> 00:52:33,680
monitors my world

1502
00:52:37,270 --> 00:52:35,520
so what you're really asking me in many

1503
00:52:38,549 --> 00:52:37,280
ways is what do i believe you know and i

1504
00:52:39,910 --> 00:52:38,559
don't think it's a belief by the way i

1505
00:52:41,589 --> 00:52:39,920
think it's more what have i studied or

1506
00:52:43,829 --> 00:52:41,599
what do i feel

1507
00:52:45,670 --> 00:52:43,839
uh i've learned enough about to have at

1508
00:52:47,349 --> 00:52:45,680
least an opinion on

1509
00:52:49,510 --> 00:52:47,359
in my own life

1510
00:52:51,190 --> 00:52:49,520
i was a seeker when i was younger

1511
00:52:53,910 --> 00:52:51,200
i do not hold

1512
00:52:58,309 --> 00:52:56,390
orthodoxy or or church

1513
00:52:59,990 --> 00:52:58,319
orthodox

1514
00:53:01,750 --> 00:53:00,000
i go a step further and i feel that

1515
00:53:03,510 --> 00:53:01,760
there is a place for it but i believe

1516
00:53:05,030 --> 00:53:03,520
what that is is the

1517
00:53:06,630 --> 00:53:05,040
kindergarten of spiritual seeking i

1518
00:53:09,349 --> 00:53:06,640
think it's the a good place for people

1519
00:53:11,030 --> 00:53:09,359
to go if they need rules and regulations

1520
00:53:12,790 --> 00:53:11,040
and if they need rituals and traditions

1521
00:53:15,670 --> 00:53:12,800
and if they need colorful drinking

1522
00:53:17,190 --> 00:53:15,680
trinkets and colorful light things then

1523
00:53:18,870 --> 00:53:17,200
then just like kindergarten that's a

1524
00:53:21,829 --> 00:53:18,880
good place to go to start

1525
00:53:24,630 --> 00:53:21,839
but start there you know um

1526
00:53:28,470 --> 00:53:24,640
but i like being a seeker

1527
00:53:30,630 --> 00:53:28,480
i like being open and searching and in

1528
00:53:32,470 --> 00:53:30,640
my process now as a 60 year old still

1529
00:53:35,270 --> 00:53:32,480
feeling like i you know i could listen

1530
00:53:37,990 --> 00:53:35,280
to one podcast from from a great thinker

1531
00:53:42,390 --> 00:53:38,000
and go god i'm an idiot

1532
00:53:44,230 --> 00:53:42,400
but i don't really think i'm an idiot i

1533
00:53:46,549 --> 00:53:44,240
i have

1534
00:53:48,230 --> 00:53:46,559
felt enough

1535
00:53:50,230 --> 00:53:48,240
that whatever the answer here's the

1536
00:53:51,990 --> 00:53:50,240
thing you and i can't nobody's gonna

1537
00:53:53,670 --> 00:53:52,000
answer this till they die none of us

1538
00:53:55,829 --> 00:53:53,680
know until our until until our breaths

1539
00:53:56,630 --> 00:53:55,839
leave this body none of us really know

1540
00:54:05,109 --> 00:53:56,640
even

1541
00:54:06,470 --> 00:54:05,119
you still can be certain but not quite

1542
00:54:08,630 --> 00:54:06,480
that certain

1543
00:54:10,390 --> 00:54:08,640
and when we die we say oh

1544
00:54:12,390 --> 00:54:10,400
oh it is it's like this

1545
00:54:15,109 --> 00:54:12,400
um and there's plenty of stand-up comedy

1546
00:54:16,870 --> 00:54:15,119
routines to have fun with that

1547
00:54:19,349 --> 00:54:16,880
i've seen enough to basically say that i

1548
00:54:21,670 --> 00:54:19,359
do allow it to guide my life

1549
00:54:24,390 --> 00:54:21,680
i i don't need to be in a selfish state

1550
00:54:26,150 --> 00:54:24,400
anymore if i have over times so that's

1551
00:54:29,270 --> 00:54:26,160
that's

1552
00:54:30,950 --> 00:54:29,280
how questioning everything

1553
00:54:32,309 --> 00:54:30,960
i won't stop i won't stop questioning

1554
00:54:34,390 --> 00:54:32,319
everything trying to seek the

1555
00:54:37,750 --> 00:54:34,400
understanding of everything

1556
00:54:38,870 --> 00:54:37,760
i think we all i wish we all would

1557
00:54:42,790 --> 00:54:38,880
what do you see as the connection

1558
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:46,230
that's a big question

1559
00:54:50,710 --> 00:54:48,950
the bigfoot phenomenon is a rabbit hole

1560
00:54:53,030 --> 00:54:50,720
it's a rabbit hole covered in ice with

1561
00:54:54,950 --> 00:54:53,040
greaseport over top of it

1562
00:54:56,549 --> 00:54:54,960
it's really slippery

1563
00:54:58,470 --> 00:54:56,559
and once you go down that rabbit hole it

1564
00:55:00,309 --> 00:54:58,480
leads off to a hundred other rabbit

1565
00:55:01,510 --> 00:55:00,319
holes

1566
00:55:04,150 --> 00:55:01,520
so

1567
00:55:05,349 --> 00:55:04,160
the question you ask is interesting

1568
00:55:06,950 --> 00:55:05,359
because

1569
00:55:08,470 --> 00:55:06,960
the journey of someone who wants who's

1570
00:55:10,150 --> 00:55:08,480
interested in that phenomenon starts off

1571
00:55:12,470 --> 00:55:10,160
looking for a big hairy ape

1572
00:55:14,390 --> 00:55:12,480
that's really smart

1573
00:55:16,230 --> 00:55:14,400
if you dig deep enough you leave that

1574
00:55:17,990 --> 00:55:16,240
school pretty quickly

1575
00:55:21,030 --> 00:55:18,000
it's no longer gigantopithecus the big

1576
00:55:23,270 --> 00:55:21,040
hairy ape that's really smart

1577
00:55:24,309 --> 00:55:23,280
and instead you start going wait a

1578
00:55:25,589 --> 00:55:24,319
minute

1579
00:55:28,150 --> 00:55:25,599
and then you keep having a whole bunch

1580
00:55:29,829 --> 00:55:28,160
of weight on minutes with attributes

1581
00:55:33,270 --> 00:55:29,839
various attributes

1582
00:55:35,589 --> 00:55:34,470
telepathy

1583
00:55:37,109 --> 00:55:35,599
um

1584
00:55:38,630 --> 00:55:37,119
and uh

1585
00:55:40,069 --> 00:55:38,640
uh

1586
00:55:41,349 --> 00:55:40,079
cloaking and

1587
00:55:42,390 --> 00:55:41,359
all sorts of you know

1588
00:55:45,510 --> 00:55:42,400
various

1589
00:55:46,790 --> 00:55:45,520
versions of manipulating energy as well

1590
00:55:49,030 --> 00:55:46,800
so i think

1591
00:55:50,470 --> 00:55:49,040
consciousness and bigfoot

1592
00:55:53,670 --> 00:55:50,480
where it lands first of all nobody has a

1593
00:55:58,789 --> 00:55:56,789
but the phenomenon is big enough

1594
00:56:01,190 --> 00:55:58,799
hundreds of years to thousands of years

1595
00:56:02,950 --> 00:56:01,200
hundreds of cultures all saying the same

1596
00:56:04,710 --> 00:56:02,960
thing by the way and tens of thousands

1597
00:56:06,309 --> 00:56:04,720
of anecdotal references

1598
00:56:09,190 --> 00:56:06,319
including sightings

1599
00:56:11,510 --> 00:56:09,200
something's there my question is

1600
00:56:14,230 --> 00:56:11,520
never mind just bigfoot

1601
00:56:17,670 --> 00:56:14,240
if that species is out there and i can

1602
00:56:19,670 --> 00:56:17,680
come back to them what else is out there

1603
00:56:21,430 --> 00:56:19,680
i mean you can't just go okay so there's

1604
00:56:23,349 --> 00:56:21,440
bigfoot i'm going home now it's like

1605
00:56:25,270 --> 00:56:23,359
well if there's bigfoot

1606
00:56:27,750 --> 00:56:25,280
what else

1607
00:56:28,829 --> 00:56:27,760
and a lot of possibilities

1608
00:56:33,270 --> 00:56:28,839
open

1609
00:56:35,670 --> 00:56:33,280
up for example i think that

1610
00:56:38,150 --> 00:56:35,680
the potentiality is there for this

1611
00:56:39,510 --> 00:56:38,160
species nicknamed bigfoot but for

1612
00:56:41,030 --> 00:56:39,520
example sasquatch and whatever the

1613
00:56:43,109 --> 00:56:41,040
different names of that

1614
00:56:45,030 --> 00:56:43,119
to be a culmination of all of these

1615
00:56:46,470 --> 00:56:45,040
attributes people talk about

1616
00:56:47,829 --> 00:56:46,480
which would include

1617
00:56:49,430 --> 00:56:47,839
uh

1618
00:56:50,950 --> 00:56:49,440
psychic abilities the ability of

1619
00:56:52,549 --> 00:56:50,960
telepathy

1620
00:56:54,470 --> 00:56:52,559
which would include cloaking abilities

1621
00:56:56,470 --> 00:56:54,480
which now one gentleman had a theory

1622
00:56:58,630 --> 00:56:56,480
that i still think holds some weight is

1623
00:57:02,069 --> 00:56:58,640
what if it was simply a species of

1624
00:57:05,510 --> 00:57:02,079
intensely savant autistic

1625
00:57:08,230 --> 00:57:05,520
individuals and their savant autism

1626
00:57:10,390 --> 00:57:08,240
gave them such extraordinary ability

1627
00:57:12,950 --> 00:57:10,400
of hide and seek

1628
00:57:14,950 --> 00:57:12,960
and on top of that a savant ability of

1629
00:57:16,950 --> 00:57:14,960
telepathy and a survivability and they

1630
00:57:18,789 --> 00:57:16,960
had they understood how to manipulate

1631
00:57:19,990 --> 00:57:18,799
their own energy their own life force

1632
00:57:21,670 --> 00:57:20,000
energy

1633
00:57:23,190 --> 00:57:21,680
to me all of that's possible if we're

1634
00:57:24,870 --> 00:57:23,200
talking about

1635
00:57:26,230 --> 00:57:24,880
the potentiality of the human mind but

1636
00:57:28,150 --> 00:57:26,240
the minute you throw bigfoot into it oh

1637
00:57:29,270 --> 00:57:28,160
that's just nonsense exactly

1638
00:57:30,789 --> 00:57:29,280
how do you know it's not a species

1639
00:57:32,309 --> 00:57:30,799
that's way ahead of us okay they don't

1640
00:57:34,390 --> 00:57:32,319
compose symphonies they don't build

1641
00:57:35,430 --> 00:57:34,400
airplanes and cars i get that

1642
00:57:37,349 --> 00:57:35,440
that doesn't mean they can't do all

1643
00:57:38,470 --> 00:57:37,359
these other things so i didn't really

1644
00:57:39,990 --> 00:57:38,480
answer your question because i don't

1645
00:57:41,430 --> 00:57:40,000
know the answer to

1646
00:57:44,470 --> 00:57:41,440
the comparison of consciousness and

1647
00:57:46,710 --> 00:57:44,480
bigfoot what i'm suggesting is they

1648
00:57:48,789 --> 00:57:46,720
if they exist they are

1649
00:57:49,670 --> 00:57:48,799
in a realm of existence that we are far

1650
00:57:51,750 --> 00:57:49,680
from

1651
00:57:53,430 --> 00:57:51,760
grasping or understanding and they're

1652
00:57:54,789 --> 00:57:53,440
farther ahead than we are on certain

1653
00:57:56,069 --> 00:57:54,799
levels just way behind us in other

1654
00:57:57,990 --> 00:57:56,079
levels

1655
00:57:59,910 --> 00:57:58,000
why i'm asking is less you don't

1656
00:58:01,750 --> 00:57:59,920
disparage the bigfoot topic i don't

1657
00:58:05,910 --> 00:58:01,760
disparage the ufo topic even though

1658
00:58:09,190 --> 00:58:06,870
and

1659
00:58:10,950 --> 00:58:09,200
i i'm pretty sure i was inspired by you

1660
00:58:12,470 --> 00:58:10,960
but either way

1661
00:58:13,990 --> 00:58:12,480
so if

1662
00:58:15,589 --> 00:58:14,000
i'm sorry for stealing that from you

1663
00:58:17,670 --> 00:58:15,599
stealing your own that's okay

1664
00:58:19,109 --> 00:58:17,680
okay either way when i was listening to

1665
00:58:20,630 --> 00:58:19,119
i believe it was some of your podcasts

1666
00:58:22,470 --> 00:58:20,640
or your commentary on some of the

1667
00:58:24,309 --> 00:58:22,480
bigfoot episodes before which i'm my

1668
00:58:25,510 --> 00:58:24,319
bone to pick with you man which i'm

1669
00:58:28,789 --> 00:58:25,520
going to put as an aside right now i'm

1670
00:58:31,430 --> 00:58:28,799
going to tell you that as i fall asleep

1671
00:58:33,270 --> 00:58:31,440
i used to listen to your shows

1672
00:58:35,109 --> 00:58:33,280
and and then

1673
00:58:36,390 --> 00:58:35,119
right and i have insomnia and right when

1674
00:58:37,670 --> 00:58:36,400
i'm about to fall asleep you'd play the

1675
00:58:39,589 --> 00:58:37,680
harmonica and

1676
00:58:40,950 --> 00:58:39,599
i'm just cursing you and i'm just

1677
00:58:42,630 --> 00:58:40,960
wishing man i wish someone would

1678
00:58:44,549 --> 00:58:42,640
timestamp when those harmonicas are so

1679
00:58:46,309 --> 00:58:44,559
that i could start it from right after

1680
00:58:47,829 --> 00:58:46,319
either way bracket that i was listening

1681
00:58:50,230 --> 00:58:47,839
to and i believe you said something like

1682
00:58:51,829 --> 00:58:50,240
okay i went out to the woods filming for

1683
00:58:53,670 --> 00:58:51,839
bigfoot i think this is way after the

1684
00:58:55,430 --> 00:58:53,680
series you're filming for bigfoot didn't

1685
00:58:57,430 --> 00:58:55,440
occur so you thought you know

1686
00:58:58,630 --> 00:58:57,440
there are stories that they can hear

1687
00:59:00,309 --> 00:58:58,640
what's going on with the cameras or

1688
00:59:02,390 --> 00:59:00,319
sense it in some manner so why don't i

1689
00:59:04,470 --> 00:59:02,400
turn the cameras off perhaps even do

1690
00:59:05,990 --> 00:59:04,480
some meditation exercise which is why i

1691
00:59:07,190 --> 00:59:06,000
brought up consciousness a meditative

1692
00:59:09,589 --> 00:59:07,200
exercise

1693
00:59:11,670 --> 00:59:09,599
and then you saw orbs and then i think

1694
00:59:14,069 --> 00:59:11,680
when i was listening to you said i can't

1695
00:59:15,349 --> 00:59:14,079
talk about it yet because you had just

1696
00:59:18,069 --> 00:59:15,359
gone through that experience and you

1697
00:59:19,910 --> 00:59:18,079
were processing it now am i correct and

1698
00:59:21,829 --> 00:59:19,920
if i am correct can you just reiterate

1699
00:59:23,990 --> 00:59:21,839
to the audience correctly what i just

1700
00:59:25,589 --> 00:59:24,000
perhaps incorrectly stated

1701
00:59:26,950 --> 00:59:25,599
no that was all correct that was uh from

1702
00:59:29,670 --> 00:59:26,960
the portland episode it was the last

1703
00:59:31,430 --> 00:59:29,680
thing i ever filmed uh it was outside of

1704
00:59:34,309 --> 00:59:31,440
the full series but it's on youtube now

1705
00:59:38,950 --> 00:59:36,789
what occurred can you talk about it now

1706
00:59:41,190 --> 00:59:38,960
well yeah i don't mind really it it's

1707
00:59:43,109 --> 00:59:41,200
it's not that difficult to be honest

1708
00:59:46,950 --> 00:59:43,119
with you but the full story it's really

1709
00:59:49,829 --> 00:59:46,960
it's the story of of um

1710
00:59:53,589 --> 00:59:49,839
the potentiality of mental telepathy and

1711
00:59:55,510 --> 00:59:53,599
this particular species you see

1712
00:59:56,789 --> 00:59:55,520
when i was in tennessee in the episode

1713
00:59:58,829 --> 00:59:56,799
in tennessee and you want to go back and

1714
01:00:01,270 --> 00:59:58,839
watch that episode for

1715
01:00:02,789 --> 01:00:01,280
example and i've told this story uh i

1716
01:00:06,390 --> 01:00:02,799
told it just recently on

1717
01:00:08,230 --> 01:00:06,400
uh sasquatch odyssey a podcast

1718
01:00:10,549 --> 01:00:08,240
bottom line was that i was walking on

1719
01:00:12,390 --> 01:00:10,559
the trail on the way out and um never

1720
01:00:14,230 --> 01:00:12,400
ever before in my life have i ever

1721
01:00:15,910 --> 01:00:14,240
experienced any kind of psychic or

1722
01:00:18,309 --> 01:00:15,920
telepathic phenomenon of any sort

1723
01:00:20,390 --> 01:00:18,319
whatsoever um and i wasn't high and i

1724
01:00:22,069 --> 01:00:20,400
wasn't drunk and i wasn't tired

1725
01:00:23,430 --> 01:00:22,079
and i'm walking i'm walking out and i

1726
01:00:24,710 --> 01:00:23,440
just had this

1727
01:00:25,589 --> 01:00:24,720
powerful

1728
01:00:28,870 --> 01:00:25,599
voice

1729
01:00:29,820 --> 01:00:28,880
speak to me inside my head

1730
01:00:31,190 --> 01:00:29,830
and um

1731
01:00:33,109 --> 01:00:31,200
[Music]

1732
01:00:34,710 --> 01:00:33,119
so much so that after the fact i

1733
01:00:36,230 --> 01:00:34,720
actually went in to see a counselor to

1734
01:00:37,750 --> 01:00:36,240
make sure i wasn't schizophrenic because

1735
01:00:40,069 --> 01:00:37,760
it hit me that hard i thought i got to

1736
01:00:42,309 --> 01:00:40,079
know what's going on here you know and

1737
01:00:43,750 --> 01:00:42,319
the counselor reassured me that no

1738
01:00:45,430 --> 01:00:43,760
you're far from schizophrenic don't

1739
01:00:47,510 --> 01:00:45,440
worry about that what what you received

1740
01:00:49,589 --> 01:00:47,520
was a gift and you should just celebrate

1741
01:00:51,589 --> 01:00:49,599
that fact indeed really aware of that

1742
01:00:52,789 --> 01:00:51,599
and then it happened another two times

1743
01:00:56,950 --> 01:00:52,799
and then for the portland one that

1744
01:00:58,470 --> 01:00:56,960
you're referencing what happened there

1745
01:00:59,990 --> 01:00:58,480
was

1746
01:01:00,950 --> 01:01:00,000
i'm not i don't think i said this in the

1747
01:01:03,990 --> 01:01:00,960
show but

1748
01:01:08,150 --> 01:01:06,230
first of all i put my energy my thought

1749
01:01:10,230 --> 01:01:08,160
energy out there telepathically to the

1750
01:01:12,630 --> 01:01:10,240
sasquatch in that area that i was told

1751
01:01:15,190 --> 01:01:12,640
were there by a woman who has a

1752
01:01:16,230 --> 01:01:15,200
telepathic communication with them she

1753
01:01:18,549 --> 01:01:16,240
says

1754
01:01:19,829 --> 01:01:18,559
so i i you know said you know i'm coming

1755
01:01:21,750 --> 01:01:19,839
to meet you i did this for about a week

1756
01:01:22,789 --> 01:01:21,760
ahead of time and i started to

1757
01:01:25,510 --> 01:01:22,799
uh

1758
01:01:27,670 --> 01:01:25,520
at one point feel like i was getting

1759
01:01:29,190 --> 01:01:27,680
an answer if you will in my brain okay

1760
01:01:31,270 --> 01:01:29,200
fine so now i

1761
01:01:34,230 --> 01:01:31,280
yeah so now i go up there

1762
01:01:36,069 --> 01:01:34,240
and i go out in the bush and i'm and i'm

1763
01:01:39,430 --> 01:01:36,079
the orb thing had happened

1764
01:01:40,950 --> 01:01:39,440
and uh later on i'm just

1765
01:01:42,630 --> 01:01:40,960
sleeping on the ground and i was

1766
01:01:44,230 --> 01:01:42,640
starting to doze off and that little

1767
01:01:47,030 --> 01:01:44,240
crackling fire going

1768
01:01:48,470 --> 01:01:47,040
and all of a sudden i felt

1769
01:01:50,950 --> 01:01:48,480
a very

1770
01:01:52,870 --> 01:01:50,960
warm and actually felt a bit soft and

1771
01:01:55,430 --> 01:01:52,880
furry so it could have been anything

1772
01:01:57,750 --> 01:01:55,440
but it basically

1773
01:01:59,510 --> 01:01:57,760
went over my ankle and flipped my ankle

1774
01:02:02,630 --> 01:01:59,520
enough that it woke me up and i jumped

1775
01:02:04,630 --> 01:02:02,640
up immediately and it felt like a

1776
01:02:05,990 --> 01:02:04,640
nice big warm hand flipping my ankle

1777
01:02:07,510 --> 01:02:06,000
over and i jumped up immediately i

1778
01:02:08,789 --> 01:02:07,520
didn't see anything

1779
01:02:10,390 --> 01:02:08,799
fast forward to the next morning we're

1780
01:02:11,829 --> 01:02:10,400
walking out we run into the lady again

1781
01:02:13,190 --> 01:02:11,839
and we're planning on anyway

1782
01:02:15,670 --> 01:02:13,200
anyway we see her

1783
01:02:17,829 --> 01:02:15,680
i did not tell her this

1784
01:02:19,510 --> 01:02:17,839
and she says

1785
01:02:21,270 --> 01:02:19,520
she called him guardian so she's she's

1786
01:02:22,950 --> 01:02:21,280
given

1787
01:02:24,549 --> 01:02:22,960
i was speaking with guardian and he told

1788
01:02:26,870 --> 01:02:24,559
me that during the night he came over

1789
01:02:28,710 --> 01:02:26,880
and touched you

1790
01:02:30,069 --> 01:02:28,720
and what do you do with that

1791
01:02:31,910 --> 01:02:30,079
she just that was the next morning she

1792
01:02:35,589 --> 01:02:31,920
said that to me after it actually

1793
01:02:37,190 --> 01:02:35,599
happened and i hadn't told her

1794
01:02:40,549 --> 01:02:37,200
and

1795
01:02:44,549 --> 01:02:42,230
have happened to me about four times in

1796
01:02:45,990 --> 01:02:44,559
my life

1797
01:02:48,150 --> 01:02:46,000
without

1798
01:02:49,430 --> 01:02:48,160
forcing it lots of times nothing happens

1799
01:02:51,190 --> 01:02:49,440
something to remember too sometimes you

1800
01:02:53,349 --> 01:02:51,200
tell these stories people think oh

1801
01:02:54,390 --> 01:02:53,359
shit's going on all the time but

1802
01:02:55,990 --> 01:02:54,400
most of the time nothing's ever

1803
01:02:57,829 --> 01:02:56,000
happening see these are occurrences that

1804
01:03:00,150 --> 01:02:57,839
have happened over a number of years

1805
01:03:01,670 --> 01:03:00,160
i've had four telepathic experiences

1806
01:03:03,670 --> 01:03:01,680
anyway so that's what happened though of

1807
01:03:06,630 --> 01:03:03,680
that particular show and i i don't think

1808
01:03:09,430 --> 01:03:06,640
i i at the time was ready to talk about

1809
01:03:11,990 --> 01:03:09,440
that on camera and i didn't mention it

1810
01:03:13,349 --> 01:03:12,000
because if i mentioned it people go he's

1811
01:03:16,470 --> 01:03:13,359
losing it

1812
01:03:18,710 --> 01:03:16,480
right and i'm screaming ridicule

1813
01:03:21,270 --> 01:03:18,720
not so much during ridicule

1814
01:03:23,750 --> 01:03:21,280
no it's not the ridicule i fear it's

1815
01:03:25,349 --> 01:03:23,760
their inability to handle the full story

1816
01:03:26,870 --> 01:03:25,359
and yes i'm belittling them when i say

1817
01:03:28,789 --> 01:03:26,880
that yes i sound a little condescending

1818
01:03:31,910 --> 01:03:28,799
when i say that but screw them if i just

1819
01:03:33,670 --> 01:03:31,920
say hey yeah bigfoot talk to me

1820
01:03:35,270 --> 01:03:33,680
all the chuckles starts like okay you

1821
01:03:36,710 --> 01:03:35,280
know what but i could say that to a lot

1822
01:03:37,990 --> 01:03:36,720
of people that go really tell me what

1823
01:03:40,549 --> 01:03:38,000
happened

1824
01:03:43,109 --> 01:03:40,559
that's a person i like to share with you

1825
01:03:45,430 --> 01:03:43,119
okay is okay so let's say a week prior

1826
01:03:48,150 --> 01:03:45,440
to you going out and experiencing that

1827
01:03:50,789 --> 01:03:48,160
orb you were doing some exercises where

1828
01:03:51,910 --> 01:03:50,799
you were trying to contact bigfoot via

1829
01:03:54,549 --> 01:03:51,920
intention

1830
01:03:57,270 --> 01:03:54,559
and meditating something like that

1831
01:03:59,829 --> 01:03:57,280
more via psychic outreach like

1832
01:04:01,589 --> 01:03:59,839
specifically speaking so i've done it

1833
01:04:03,829 --> 01:04:01,599
several times

1834
01:04:05,829 --> 01:04:03,839
and and nothing's ever happened but a

1835
01:04:07,270 --> 01:04:05,839
couple of times i have gotten an answer

1836
01:04:08,230 --> 01:04:07,280
one time it was actually rather quite

1837
01:04:09,750 --> 01:04:08,240
funny

1838
01:04:11,029 --> 01:04:09,760
i would go on a hike so if people are

1839
01:04:13,910 --> 01:04:11,039
wondering how to do this i mean i would

1840
01:04:15,430 --> 01:04:13,920
go on a hike and i would just if i want

1841
01:04:16,710 --> 01:04:15,440
an interaction i would just put it out

1842
01:04:18,549 --> 01:04:16,720
there and just say you know i'm coming

1843
01:04:20,309 --> 01:04:18,559
out i'm going to be hiking

1844
01:04:22,069 --> 01:04:20,319
in an area you know don't know if

1845
01:04:25,109 --> 01:04:22,079
anybody's even there but if someone is

1846
01:04:27,510 --> 01:04:25,119
there i would be welcoming in love to

1847
01:04:29,190 --> 01:04:27,520
have some kind of interaction

1848
01:04:30,710 --> 01:04:29,200
and then often as i

1849
01:04:33,990 --> 01:04:30,720
and

1850
01:04:36,309 --> 01:04:34,000
like

1851
01:04:37,109 --> 01:04:36,319
one time though bam in the middle of my

1852
01:04:39,750 --> 01:04:37,119
head

1853
01:04:42,150 --> 01:04:39,760
all i got was

1854
01:04:43,750 --> 01:04:42,160
thanks for sleeping

1855
01:04:44,950 --> 01:04:43,760
i mean it's just the craziest thing and

1856
01:04:46,870 --> 01:04:44,960
again remember the first time this

1857
01:04:48,309 --> 01:04:46,880
happened i went in to see a counselor

1858
01:04:49,990 --> 01:04:48,319
and i've only had this happen four times

1859
01:04:51,750 --> 01:04:50,000
in my whole life okay

1860
01:04:53,349 --> 01:04:51,760
but i'll tell you it is the strangest

1861
01:04:56,470 --> 01:04:53,359
thing ever when it happens it's so

1862
01:04:58,230 --> 01:04:56,480
strong anyone who who is who has this as

1863
01:04:59,910 --> 01:04:58,240
a skill in their life will just go yeah

1864
01:05:02,230 --> 01:04:59,920
of course that they wouldn't even they

1865
01:05:03,589 --> 01:05:02,240
would accept this conversation with zero

1866
01:05:05,190 --> 01:05:03,599
judgment

1867
01:05:07,589 --> 01:05:05,200
now these four times it's occurred to

1868
01:05:09,670 --> 01:05:07,599
you were they each single sentences just

1869
01:05:10,950 --> 01:05:09,680
like no we're sleeping or were they so

1870
01:05:12,870 --> 01:05:10,960
the paragraph i'll give you the i'll

1871
01:05:14,150 --> 01:05:12,880
give you i'll give you the script sure

1872
01:05:17,430 --> 01:05:14,160
uh the the

1873
01:05:22,150 --> 01:05:19,190
we're right over here

1874
01:05:23,750 --> 01:05:22,160
if you want to meet us stay the night

1875
01:05:25,270 --> 01:05:23,760
to which i replied this in tennessee to

1876
01:05:26,150 --> 01:05:25,280
which i replied

1877
01:05:28,230 --> 01:05:26,160
because the first time anything like

1878
01:05:30,309 --> 01:05:28,240
this ever happened in my life and i was

1879
01:05:32,630 --> 01:05:30,319
scared and the hair was up on the back

1880
01:05:35,349 --> 01:05:32,640
of my neck i had never felt that

1881
01:05:37,270 --> 01:05:35,359
and i said i'm not ready

1882
01:05:39,109 --> 01:05:37,280
and they said

1883
01:05:40,630 --> 01:05:39,119
that's fine

1884
01:05:41,670 --> 01:05:40,640
and they walked away

1885
01:05:42,710 --> 01:05:41,680
and i

1886
01:05:44,710 --> 01:05:42,720
okay

1887
01:05:46,549 --> 01:05:44,720
that was in my mom that's cool when they

1888
01:05:48,789 --> 01:05:46,559
said we're here did they give you a

1889
01:05:51,750 --> 01:05:48,799
location or they said here and it was

1890
01:05:53,829 --> 01:05:51,760
implied they were near you

1891
01:05:55,109 --> 01:05:53,839
both the location was basically the hill

1892
01:05:56,870 --> 01:05:55,119
right over there that i could see from

1893
01:05:59,829 --> 01:05:56,880
about 150 feet away

1894
01:06:02,630 --> 01:05:59,839
that's pitch black i'm in the dark

1895
01:06:04,150 --> 01:06:02,640
and they're right and i and

1896
01:06:06,390 --> 01:06:04,160
the image in my brain that was seared in

1897
01:06:09,109 --> 01:06:06,400
my brain was of a large hulking male

1898
01:06:09,990 --> 01:06:09,119
figure and a small child

1899
01:06:14,309 --> 01:06:10,000
both

1900
01:06:16,630 --> 01:06:14,319
you will

1901
01:06:19,109 --> 01:06:16,640
and that really freaked me out um and

1902
01:06:21,270 --> 01:06:19,119
nothing and then i think a couple of uh

1903
01:06:22,470 --> 01:06:21,280
well no actually a few months went by

1904
01:06:24,470 --> 01:06:22,480
after that one the next one was a little

1905
01:06:26,950 --> 01:06:24,480
more menacing

1906
01:06:29,270 --> 01:06:26,960
um it was during a meditative process on

1907
01:06:31,349 --> 01:06:29,280
the texas bigfoot episode and that one i

1908
01:06:33,670 --> 01:06:31,359
never told anybody on camera but there i

1909
01:06:36,710 --> 01:06:33,680
did get during the meditation stage i

1910
01:06:38,390 --> 01:06:36,720
got i gotta uh yeah yeah get get get

1911
01:06:39,990 --> 01:06:38,400
ready get ready for this was kind of

1912
01:06:41,589 --> 01:06:40,000
sort of the message and it felt menacing

1913
01:06:43,270 --> 01:06:41,599
and dark and i didn't like it and i

1914
01:06:45,029 --> 01:06:43,280
didn't i just kind of like no

1915
01:06:47,029 --> 01:06:45,039
no no no not going here

1916
01:06:48,950 --> 01:06:47,039
the third time was the

1917
01:06:50,309 --> 01:06:48,960
uh in oregon and it was the answer in my

1918
01:06:52,150 --> 01:06:50,319
brain was simply

1919
01:06:53,829 --> 01:06:52,160
no thanks for sleeping and the fourth

1920
01:06:56,710 --> 01:06:53,839
time was the portland portland episode

1921
01:06:57,990 --> 01:06:56,720
where where basically this particular

1922
01:06:59,029 --> 01:06:58,000
being said

1923
01:07:01,829 --> 01:06:59,039
um

1924
01:07:03,670 --> 01:07:01,839
yeah yeah we're here we're ready for you

1925
01:07:07,510 --> 01:07:03,680
you know and uh and that was a wonderful

1926
01:07:09,109 --> 01:07:07,520
experience so am i crazy uh am i

1927
01:07:11,109 --> 01:07:09,119
are these are they hallucinations is it

1928
01:07:12,549 --> 01:07:11,119
lucid dreaming is it blah blah blah blah

1929
01:07:15,270 --> 01:07:12,559
blah blah i don't know but i know that

1930
01:07:18,150 --> 01:07:15,280
in all instances i was wide awake

1931
01:07:19,589 --> 01:07:18,160
very sober very straight and

1932
01:07:22,470 --> 01:07:19,599
not

1933
01:07:23,990 --> 01:07:22,480
trying to make this happen in my brain

1934
01:07:25,430 --> 01:07:24,000
and i've tried many many other times and

1935
01:07:27,349 --> 01:07:25,440
nothing happens

1936
01:07:28,950 --> 01:07:27,359
but these times they were just sears in

1937
01:07:31,990 --> 01:07:28,960
the middle of your brain you can just

1938
01:07:33,910 --> 01:07:32,000
it's just you can't not hear it you know

1939
01:07:35,510 --> 01:07:33,920
when the first time you had a back and

1940
01:07:37,190 --> 01:07:35,520
forth or at least you said one statement

1941
01:07:38,950 --> 01:07:37,200
which is i don't think i'm ready

1942
01:07:41,349 --> 01:07:38,960
did you say that in your mind do you say

1943
01:07:43,349 --> 01:07:41,359
it out loud how did you say it yeah i

1944
01:07:44,950 --> 01:07:43,359
say it in my mind and so someone's going

1945
01:07:47,109 --> 01:07:44,960
away oh yeah sure they'd speak english

1946
01:07:49,190 --> 01:07:47,119
sure sure no what they do is it's a

1947
01:07:50,870 --> 01:07:49,200
process of your mind deciphers for you

1948
01:07:53,349 --> 01:07:50,880
what you're supposed to understand and

1949
01:07:54,789 --> 01:07:53,359
to me that if i was chinese it would be

1950
01:07:57,109 --> 01:07:54,799
it would be in mandarin you know or

1951
01:07:58,630 --> 01:07:57,119
something uh so

1952
01:08:02,309 --> 01:07:58,640
so uh

1953
01:08:03,910 --> 01:08:02,319
yeah yeah so so so yeah it's it says

1954
01:08:06,309 --> 01:08:03,920
that yeah so you gave your intention

1955
01:08:07,990 --> 01:08:06,319
like hey i'm not ready currently okay

1956
01:08:10,470 --> 01:08:08,000
now when they spoke to you

1957
01:08:12,069 --> 01:08:10,480
all of these times were they instantly

1958
01:08:13,190 --> 01:08:12,079
understood or were they understood

1959
01:08:14,230 --> 01:08:13,200
linearly like when you read you

1960
01:08:15,589 --> 01:08:14,240
understand the first word the next one

1961
01:08:17,669 --> 01:08:15,599
then the next one and the next one or

1962
01:08:20,870 --> 01:08:17,679
was it all at once they said that

1963
01:08:26,070 --> 01:08:23,590
interesting question

1964
01:08:27,349 --> 01:08:26,080
the the sentences were short enough that

1965
01:08:28,550 --> 01:08:27,359
the distinction would be too hard to

1966
01:08:29,910 --> 01:08:28,560
make

1967
01:08:32,470 --> 01:08:29,920
i'm not sure that i could decipher it

1968
01:08:33,829 --> 01:08:32,480
linearly or in a linear fashion or if it

1969
01:08:36,789 --> 01:08:33,839
was all at once it was just too short

1970
01:08:39,590 --> 01:08:36,799
okay and as an aside the reason is that

1971
01:08:41,110 --> 01:08:39,600
some people when they speak to other

1972
01:08:42,550 --> 01:08:41,120
beings or

1973
01:08:43,990 --> 01:08:42,560
let's say even they have an encounter

1974
01:08:46,390 --> 01:08:44,000
with god it's as if

1975
01:08:47,749 --> 01:08:46,400
all of that is said to them like that

1976
01:08:49,189 --> 01:08:47,759
and it's not like it's like when you

1977
01:08:51,189 --> 01:08:49,199
read one word you don't read each letter

1978
01:08:52,709 --> 01:08:51,199
you read the word instantly

1979
01:08:54,229 --> 01:08:52,719
if i if i was forced to make the

1980
01:08:56,789 --> 01:08:54,239
distinction that is what i would say i

1981
01:08:58,149 --> 01:08:56,799
would say it feels like it's all at once

1982
01:08:59,269 --> 01:08:58,159
it's just that the statuses were short

1983
01:09:00,950 --> 01:08:59,279
so it

1984
01:09:02,709 --> 01:09:00,960
same thing sort of thinking

1985
01:09:04,550 --> 01:09:02,719
is it all right if i ask you a couple of

1986
01:09:07,110 --> 01:09:04,560
details of the orbs of what the heck

1987
01:09:08,470 --> 01:09:07,120
happened there okay so firstly how large

1988
01:09:09,990 --> 01:09:08,480
were the orbs and what color were they

1989
01:09:11,189 --> 01:09:10,000
where did they come from when did they

1990
01:09:12,630 --> 01:09:11,199
come why

1991
01:09:15,269 --> 01:09:12,640
well you won't be able to answer why

1992
01:09:16,709 --> 01:09:15,279
well i mean i was we were uh devin and i

1993
01:09:19,349 --> 01:09:16,719
because devon was with me on that one we

1994
01:09:22,070 --> 01:09:19,359
were sitting and i just heard

1995
01:09:24,390 --> 01:09:23,349
hey les come here you've got to look at

1996
01:09:26,149 --> 01:09:24,400
this

1997
01:09:27,910 --> 01:09:26,159
and i and i something like that and i

1998
01:09:29,990 --> 01:09:27,920
get up and i walk over to devon he was

1999
01:09:33,510 --> 01:09:30,000
10 feet away 50 feet away

2000
01:09:35,030 --> 01:09:33,520
and about 15 feet away from him

2001
01:09:35,990 --> 01:09:35,040
were two

2002
01:09:37,110 --> 01:09:36,000
hovering

2003
01:09:39,349 --> 01:09:37,120
orbs

2004
01:09:41,349 --> 01:09:39,359
one the size of a golf ball one the size

2005
01:09:43,030 --> 01:09:41,359
of a pie plate the pie plate one was

2006
01:09:44,950 --> 01:09:43,040
much more fuzzy and less distinctive the

2007
01:09:46,789 --> 01:09:44,960
golf ball was more focused in if you

2008
01:09:49,030 --> 01:09:46,799
will

2009
01:09:51,669 --> 01:09:49,040
they stayed hovering there

2010
01:09:53,189 --> 01:09:51,679
and you could see like gentle hover

2011
01:09:55,030 --> 01:09:53,199
in their movement

2012
01:09:58,709 --> 01:09:55,040
but in the same position

2013
01:10:01,270 --> 01:09:58,719
for i want to say a good 15-20 minutes

2014
01:10:03,110 --> 01:10:01,280
enough for us to look and go is there

2015
01:10:04,870 --> 01:10:03,120
car lights flashing off something is

2016
01:10:06,709 --> 01:10:04,880
there a local i mean we're in the middle

2017
01:10:08,950 --> 01:10:06,719
of the forest right

2018
01:10:11,189 --> 01:10:08,960
our eyes are you know i mean we're all

2019
01:10:13,430 --> 01:10:11,199
clear again straight

2020
01:10:15,030 --> 01:10:13,440
you know no no uh

2021
01:10:16,790 --> 01:10:15,040
we weren't smoking anything or drinking

2022
01:10:19,270 --> 01:10:16,800
anything sober

2023
01:10:24,790 --> 01:10:22,630
i think what's going on there

2024
01:10:27,030 --> 01:10:24,800
if this species truly exists this

2025
01:10:28,630 --> 01:10:27,040
phenomenon is actually something

2026
01:10:30,630 --> 01:10:28,640
is that one of its attributes is its

2027
01:10:33,030 --> 01:10:30,640
ability to manifest or ability to

2028
01:10:35,189 --> 01:10:33,040
manipulate its own life force energy and

2029
01:10:37,110 --> 01:10:35,199
in doing so it has a physical

2030
01:10:39,030 --> 01:10:37,120
manifestation which is the big hairy

2031
01:10:41,669 --> 01:10:39,040
creature we see that smells and shits

2032
01:10:43,510 --> 01:10:41,679
and eats and screams and throws rocks

2033
01:10:46,550 --> 01:10:43,520
and the other manifestation which

2034
01:10:47,910 --> 01:10:46,560
potentially could be in as light energy

2035
01:10:49,189 --> 01:10:47,920
which we would then translate as being

2036
01:10:51,350 --> 01:10:49,199
an orb

2037
01:10:52,870 --> 01:10:51,360
and and also the other message that we

2038
01:10:54,550 --> 01:10:52,880
got the next morning from the woman who

2039
01:10:56,229 --> 01:10:54,560
is an empath and a psychic with these

2040
01:10:57,430 --> 01:10:56,239
beings that she said

2041
01:11:03,590 --> 01:10:57,440
that

2042
01:11:05,910 --> 01:11:03,600
over at night but some of the others

2043
01:11:07,350 --> 01:11:05,920
came to look at us in the earlier part

2044
01:11:09,189 --> 01:11:07,360
of the night and that's when the orbs

2045
01:11:10,870 --> 01:11:09,199
were there

2046
01:11:12,390 --> 01:11:10,880
okay what color were the orbs both the

2047
01:11:16,470 --> 01:11:12,400
same color too

2048
01:11:20,790 --> 01:11:17,990
have you heard of any connections

2049
01:11:21,990 --> 01:11:20,800
between ufos and bigfoot

2050
01:11:25,270 --> 01:11:22,000
of course i've had people i've heard

2051
01:11:27,270 --> 01:11:25,280
people say that often often often often

2052
01:11:29,830 --> 01:11:27,280
my first craziest experience was on the

2053
01:11:31,590 --> 01:11:29,840
mountain in radium springs and there was

2054
01:11:33,110 --> 01:11:31,600
a scenario that happened there that i do

2055
01:11:34,390 --> 01:11:33,120
not believe i mentioned on the show

2056
01:11:35,750 --> 01:11:34,400
because i didn't want to confuse the

2057
01:11:37,510 --> 01:11:35,760
viewers it's the other thing right

2058
01:11:39,430 --> 01:11:37,520
sometimes you

2059
01:11:41,430 --> 01:11:39,440
you're forced

2060
01:11:42,870 --> 01:11:41,440
before you feed somebody filet mignon

2061
01:11:45,590 --> 01:11:42,880
you've got to get give them a taste of

2062
01:11:48,229 --> 01:11:45,600
meat first all right you know and so uh

2063
01:11:50,790 --> 01:11:48,239
that night um i looked over in the skies

2064
01:11:52,950 --> 01:11:50,800
and i saw these four big lights so they

2065
01:11:55,189 --> 01:11:52,960
were massive huge

2066
01:11:57,110 --> 01:11:55,199
and they were all lined up and they

2067
01:11:58,870 --> 01:11:57,120
could not have been airplanes but they

2068
01:11:59,830 --> 01:11:58,880
were up in the sky and they were just

2069
01:12:01,510 --> 01:11:59,840
there

2070
01:12:03,669 --> 01:12:01,520
for 20 minutes

2071
01:12:05,350 --> 01:12:03,679
and then i i went back and i i'm not

2072
01:12:06,390 --> 01:12:05,360
sure where i went to go maybe i went to

2073
01:12:07,910 --> 01:12:06,400
get my camera

2074
01:12:09,350 --> 01:12:07,920
came back they just they were gone they

2075
01:12:11,110 --> 01:12:09,360
disappeared and i'd never seen anything

2076
01:12:12,790 --> 01:12:11,120
like that in my entire life

2077
01:12:14,470 --> 01:12:12,800
and i'm just like oh my god like i'm

2078
01:12:15,669 --> 01:12:14,480
thinking this is but at the time i'm

2079
01:12:17,430 --> 01:12:15,679
just like

2080
01:12:19,750 --> 01:12:17,440
oh this is cool what the hell is at the

2081
01:12:20,870 --> 01:12:19,760
time i'm like what the hell is that and

2082
01:12:22,470 --> 01:12:20,880
that was the night you were with devon

2083
01:12:24,149 --> 01:12:22,480
or that was a different night

2084
01:12:26,310 --> 01:12:24,159
no this is the night i'm alone this is

2085
01:12:27,590 --> 01:12:26,320
on the mountain top of mountain mountain

2086
01:12:29,270 --> 01:12:27,600
in radium springs but i was one of my

2087
01:12:31,910 --> 01:12:29,280
surviving bigfoot episodes

2088
01:12:33,510 --> 01:12:31,920
that was the night after those lights

2089
01:12:36,149 --> 01:12:33,520
where i felt

2090
01:12:37,750 --> 01:12:36,159
i had something come in and sit on top

2091
01:12:39,350 --> 01:12:37,760
of me while i was trying to sleep and

2092
01:12:41,430 --> 01:12:39,360
everybody's gonna say that's old lady

2093
01:12:43,750 --> 01:12:41,440
syndrome that's sleep paralysis i get

2094
01:12:47,189 --> 01:12:43,760
that i'm familiar with that that is not

2095
01:12:49,750 --> 01:12:47,199
what i felt that night it felt

2096
01:12:51,350 --> 01:12:49,760
like somebody was sitting on me with

2097
01:12:53,350 --> 01:12:51,360
very large buttocks

2098
01:12:54,630 --> 01:12:53,360
and then that next morning the of these

2099
01:12:56,630 --> 01:12:54,640
apples i put on a tree they all

2100
01:12:57,750 --> 01:12:56,640
disappeared and the camera was filming

2101
01:12:59,430 --> 01:12:57,760
didn't catch anything they just

2102
01:13:00,950 --> 01:12:59,440
disappeared on camera you know the whole

2103
01:13:02,550 --> 01:13:00,960
night was freaked out but my point is

2104
01:13:04,390 --> 01:13:02,560
that it started with those big four

2105
01:13:06,229 --> 01:13:04,400
lights in the sky and you said you know

2106
01:13:07,030 --> 01:13:06,239
connection of ufos to bigfoot i don't

2107
01:13:09,990 --> 01:13:07,040
know

2108
01:13:11,510 --> 01:13:10,000
the world of the phenomenon of

2109
01:13:13,590 --> 01:13:11,520
sasquatches

2110
01:13:15,750 --> 01:13:13,600
over on one side here it's a big hairy

2111
01:13:18,310 --> 01:13:15,760
ape that's smart and on this side it's

2112
01:13:19,510 --> 01:13:18,320
aliens and everything in between you

2113
01:13:21,430 --> 01:13:19,520
know

2114
01:13:22,709 --> 01:13:21,440
able to travel dimensions that's what

2115
01:13:24,310 --> 01:13:22,719
you meant by the slippery rabbit hole

2116
01:13:25,830 --> 01:13:24,320
with mud and so on

2117
01:13:27,830 --> 01:13:25,840
yes although more so what i need but

2118
01:13:29,750 --> 01:13:27,840
what i mean by the rabbit hole is is my

2119
01:13:31,590 --> 01:13:29,760
line of whoa if there is sasquatch what

2120
01:13:33,990 --> 01:13:31,600
else is there

2121
01:13:36,390 --> 01:13:34,000
have you heard of skinwalker ranch

2122
01:13:38,550 --> 01:13:36,400
of course yes yeah okay so see when i

2123
01:13:40,310 --> 01:13:38,560
was researching a bit about ufos then i

2124
01:13:41,430 --> 01:13:40,320
read about skinwalker ranch and the fact

2125
01:13:43,430 --> 01:13:41,440
that there

2126
01:13:45,270 --> 01:13:43,440
have been observed portals whether or

2127
01:13:46,950 --> 01:13:45,280
not this is true there's been observed

2128
01:13:48,470 --> 01:13:46,960
portals perceived portals and then

2129
01:13:49,750 --> 01:13:48,480
sasquatch coming out and then this is a

2130
01:13:51,510 --> 01:13:49,760
place where there's plenty of ufo

2131
01:13:53,590 --> 01:13:51,520
activity and poltergeist activity as

2132
01:13:56,310 --> 01:13:53,600
well it's a strange confluence of all

2133
01:13:57,830 --> 01:13:56,320
these unexplained phenomenon

2134
01:14:00,310 --> 01:13:57,840
and you know when

2135
01:14:01,830 --> 01:14:00,320
as a scientist when you hear about let's

2136
01:14:02,950 --> 01:14:01,840
say well what's consciousness have to do

2137
01:14:04,870 --> 01:14:02,960
with

2138
01:14:06,310 --> 01:14:04,880
someone's soul phenomenon the scientists

2139
01:14:07,990 --> 01:14:06,320
would always say there's this tendency

2140
01:14:09,270 --> 01:14:08,000
in us to say unexplained phenomenon here

2141
01:14:10,550 --> 01:14:09,280
unexplained phenomena well they're

2142
01:14:12,870 --> 01:14:10,560
related somehow because they're both

2143
01:14:14,390 --> 01:14:12,880
unexplained and that's a foolish mistake

2144
01:14:16,709 --> 01:14:14,400
but when it comes to

2145
01:14:18,390 --> 01:14:16,719
bigfoot and ufos and well let's just say

2146
01:14:20,070 --> 01:14:18,400
bigfoot and ufos it seems as if it's

2147
01:14:21,750 --> 01:14:20,080
more than just the connection being

2148
01:14:24,149 --> 01:14:21,760
drawn because there's question marks

2149
01:14:25,590 --> 01:14:24,159
over each

2150
01:14:27,350 --> 01:14:25,600
in other words okay well you want to

2151
01:14:31,110 --> 01:14:27,360
riff on that yeah well i nominate i just

2152
01:14:35,910 --> 01:14:34,470
i just think existence is so much bigger

2153
01:14:38,149 --> 01:14:35,920
than our human

2154
01:14:41,750 --> 01:14:38,159
little human brains can can

2155
01:14:44,709 --> 01:14:41,760
can comprehend and and the thing is it

2156
01:14:49,510 --> 01:14:44,719
doesn't scare me

2157
01:14:51,750 --> 01:14:49,520
it's just like yeah of course i mean

2158
01:14:54,870 --> 01:14:51,760
we've had so much about ufos that if the

2159
01:14:57,110 --> 01:14:54,880
ufo landed in new york tomorrow

2160
01:14:58,950 --> 01:14:57,120
everybody we go oh yeah i figured they

2161
01:15:00,229 --> 01:14:58,960
were there

2162
01:15:02,310 --> 01:15:00,239
we get a lot of that you know like oh it

2163
01:15:04,550 --> 01:15:02,320
becomes the de facto of course the

2164
01:15:07,189 --> 01:15:04,560
aliens exist i knew that

2165
01:15:09,030 --> 01:15:07,199
who didn't know i knew

2166
01:15:10,390 --> 01:15:09,040
but we don't really know

2167
01:15:11,590 --> 01:15:10,400
um

2168
01:15:13,750 --> 01:15:11,600
i just think

2169
01:15:15,350 --> 01:15:13,760
my mind has always been

2170
01:15:17,590 --> 01:15:15,360
is this possible

2171
01:15:19,430 --> 01:15:17,600
and the answer to every single

2172
01:15:21,030 --> 01:15:19,440
question that that's asked on in my mind

2173
01:15:22,310 --> 01:15:21,040
is could be yeah

2174
01:15:24,229 --> 01:15:22,320
i'm quite open to it and here's the

2175
01:15:25,590 --> 01:15:24,239
thing that doesn't scare me and the

2176
01:15:26,470 --> 01:15:25,600
problem is that it scares a lot of

2177
01:15:28,229 --> 01:15:26,480
people

2178
01:15:29,910 --> 01:15:28,239
and and certainly a lot of religious

2179
01:15:31,590 --> 01:15:29,920
people it really scares them because

2180
01:15:33,189 --> 01:15:31,600
then you're going to bring satan into it

2181
01:15:34,390 --> 01:15:33,199
right so to me

2182
01:15:36,550 --> 01:15:34,400
none of it

2183
01:15:39,189 --> 01:15:36,560
i just don't feel a fear and i'm not

2184
01:15:41,430 --> 01:15:39,199
being machismo i just think

2185
01:15:43,590 --> 01:15:41,440
the possibilities are endless and isn't

2186
01:15:44,870 --> 01:15:43,600
that awesome

2187
01:15:46,310 --> 01:15:44,880
have you felt the fear and then you

2188
01:15:47,910 --> 01:15:46,320
managed to overcome it or just

2189
01:15:49,510 --> 01:15:47,920
temperamentally you don't feel the fear

2190
01:15:52,709 --> 01:15:49,520
when it comes to that

2191
01:15:56,390 --> 01:15:52,719
temperamentally i don't feel the fear uh

2192
01:15:58,149 --> 01:15:56,400
and also i'm well aware of the fact that

2193
01:15:59,990 --> 01:15:58,159
if i was face to face with an alien

2194
01:16:01,270 --> 01:16:00,000
tomorrow

2195
01:16:03,990 --> 01:16:01,280
uh

2196
01:16:06,870 --> 01:16:04,000
he's gotta or she or it has a huge

2197
01:16:08,950 --> 01:16:06,880
advantage over me of course yeah right

2198
01:16:10,950 --> 01:16:08,960
so what am i going to do about it you

2199
01:16:13,030 --> 01:16:10,960
know what can i actually do go grab my

2200
01:16:14,790 --> 01:16:13,040
ak-47

2201
01:16:16,709 --> 01:16:14,800
actually i wouldn't say of course sorry

2202
01:16:18,870 --> 01:16:16,719
i would step back and the reason i say

2203
01:16:20,470 --> 01:16:18,880
that is that there's some view that

2204
01:16:21,590 --> 01:16:20,480
certain aliens

2205
01:16:23,830 --> 01:16:21,600
have

2206
01:16:25,750 --> 01:16:23,840
let's say evil intent or negative intent

2207
01:16:27,030 --> 01:16:25,760
and that they cannot read our minds

2208
01:16:29,030 --> 01:16:27,040
although you can communicate with them

2209
01:16:31,350 --> 01:16:29,040
by intending like you did with the

2210
01:16:32,229 --> 01:16:31,360
bigfoot but they can't read your mind

2211
01:16:35,590 --> 01:16:32,239
and

2212
01:16:40,070 --> 01:16:35,600
extinguishes

2213
01:16:42,070 --> 01:16:40,080
sense let's say there are multiple types

2214
01:16:43,590 --> 01:16:42,080
of aliens and one is evil then you do

2215
01:16:44,950 --> 01:16:43,600
have a power over the evil ones with

2216
01:16:46,630 --> 01:16:44,960
your love so that's why i say well i

2217
01:16:47,750 --> 01:16:46,640
don't say of course

2218
01:16:50,310 --> 01:16:47,760
i think

2219
01:16:52,070 --> 01:16:50,320
thinking but if that were true then

2220
01:16:54,149 --> 01:16:52,080
nobody'd ever be heard would it because

2221
01:16:55,990 --> 01:16:54,159
there's a lot of loving caring people

2222
01:16:57,430 --> 01:16:56,000
that have been murdered

2223
01:16:59,750 --> 01:16:57,440
why didn't they why didn't their

2224
01:17:03,910 --> 01:16:59,760
capacity for love just stop the human

2225
01:17:04,790 --> 01:17:03,920
being from murdering them i i no no i i

2226
01:17:06,390 --> 01:17:04,800
think

2227
01:17:09,189 --> 01:17:06,400
you know i hear i hear about the grays

2228
01:17:11,590 --> 01:17:09,199
for example i hear about the grays and

2229
01:17:14,229 --> 01:17:11,600
uh i'm not look when i had my first

2230
01:17:16,310 --> 01:17:14,239
experience what did i say to you the

2231
01:17:19,270 --> 01:17:16,320
hair was up on the back of my neck and i

2232
01:17:21,350 --> 01:17:19,280
felt very very nervous and i was too

2233
01:17:25,110 --> 01:17:21,360
afraid to stay

2234
01:17:27,750 --> 01:17:25,120
i said i'm not ready for this

2235
01:17:30,390 --> 01:17:27,760
do i kick myself

2236
01:17:32,390 --> 01:17:30,400
yeah a little but i wasn't ready so

2237
01:17:34,390 --> 01:17:32,400
there was fear there i'm saying as a

2238
01:17:36,630 --> 01:17:34,400
general rule i don't walk around guiding

2239
01:17:38,070 --> 01:17:36,640
my life based on fear of the unknown i

2240
01:17:40,310 --> 01:17:38,080
love that the unknown and embrace the

2241
01:17:41,990 --> 01:17:40,320
unknown it's just that there will be

2242
01:17:44,870 --> 01:17:42,000
aspects of the unknown that could be

2243
01:17:46,550 --> 01:17:44,880
very detrimental to me and could harm me

2244
01:17:48,630 --> 01:17:46,560
and i don't think my capacity to love is

2245
01:17:50,870 --> 01:17:48,640
going to stop me if i'm

2246
01:17:52,870 --> 01:17:50,880
by myself in the middle of a the forest

2247
01:17:54,630 --> 01:17:52,880
and there actually are grays and a gray

2248
01:17:56,790 --> 01:17:54,640
comes over to across me you know i've

2249
01:17:59,350 --> 01:17:56,800
heard that that sasquatch are there and

2250
01:18:01,030 --> 01:17:59,360
often protect humans from the graves

2251
01:18:03,830 --> 01:18:01,040
i've heard that's a storyline people say

2252
01:18:05,669 --> 01:18:03,840
i mean so you know i'm just kind of like

2253
01:18:06,870 --> 01:18:05,679
you know when it's my time it's my time

2254
01:18:08,070 --> 01:18:06,880
i don't want to feel pain i don't want

2255
01:18:10,149 --> 01:18:08,080
to hurt i don't want to be abducted i

2256
01:18:11,270 --> 01:18:10,159
don't want to anal probe but hey i'll

2257
01:18:12,870 --> 01:18:11,280
just go and

2258
01:18:15,510 --> 01:18:12,880
you know that's not going to stop me

2259
01:18:17,110 --> 01:18:15,520
from experiencing any of these things

2260
01:18:17,990 --> 01:18:17,120
okay let's get to some audience

2261
01:18:20,790 --> 01:18:18,000
questions

2262
01:18:22,550 --> 01:18:20,800
crepetis s asks i've seen almost

2263
01:18:25,030 --> 01:18:22,560
everything that

2264
01:18:26,470 --> 01:18:25,040
you've done less and i've appreciated

2265
01:18:28,149 --> 01:18:26,480
your recent embrace of posting

2266
01:18:30,870 --> 01:18:28,159
everything on youtube frankly i've had

2267
01:18:32,870 --> 01:18:30,880
medical issues and i've watched les's

2268
01:18:34,550 --> 01:18:32,880
survival shows when i couldn't eat and i

2269
01:18:35,750 --> 01:18:34,560
was in pain and it was extremely

2270
01:18:37,510 --> 01:18:35,760
therapeutic

2271
01:18:40,550 --> 01:18:37,520
has less ever considered doing an urban

2272
01:18:42,630 --> 01:18:40,560
survival show

2273
01:18:43,830 --> 01:18:42,640
no i'll tell you why not um as people

2274
01:18:45,910 --> 01:18:43,840
ask sometimes will you do like almost

2275
01:18:47,270 --> 01:18:45,920
like a homeless kind of thing right my

2276
01:18:48,870 --> 01:18:47,280
problem with that is every time i get

2277
01:18:50,550 --> 01:18:48,880
down to the brass tacks of doing it it

2278
01:18:52,229 --> 01:18:50,560
feels like i would actually kind of be

2279
01:18:54,709 --> 01:18:52,239
disrespecting people who are truly

2280
01:18:56,229 --> 01:18:54,719
hurting and truly homeless to go and do

2281
01:18:57,990 --> 01:18:56,239
a survival show where i'm digging what

2282
01:18:59,830 --> 01:18:58,000
digging in a dumpster

2283
01:19:01,910 --> 01:18:59,840
the other answer to that is

2284
01:19:04,790 --> 01:19:01,920
i don't give a crap about the city i'm a

2285
01:19:08,149 --> 01:19:04,800
nature nut i'm a wilderness guy my stuff

2286
01:19:10,470 --> 01:19:08,159
is all based on being in nature i'm not

2287
01:19:12,790 --> 01:19:10,480
there to teach you survival

2288
01:19:14,870 --> 01:19:12,800
i or do survival tricks like these other

2289
01:19:17,669 --> 01:19:14,880
shows i'm showing you survival

2290
01:19:19,669 --> 01:19:17,679
techniques to facilitate getting you out

2291
01:19:21,990 --> 01:19:19,679
in the wilderness so no i won't do an

2292
01:19:24,550 --> 01:19:22,000
urban show because of that

2293
01:19:25,990 --> 01:19:24,560
bookman asks about limits i want to know

2294
01:19:28,790 --> 01:19:26,000
about him pushing through personal

2295
01:19:30,870 --> 01:19:28,800
limits doing hard things is tough but

2296
01:19:37,750 --> 01:19:30,880
controlling the mind is tougher how has

2297
01:19:41,830 --> 01:19:40,550
the rewards are greater

2298
01:19:43,990 --> 01:19:41,840
to do

2299
01:19:45,590 --> 01:19:44,000
the heavy lifting

2300
01:19:47,189 --> 01:19:45,600
can break your back

2301
01:19:50,310 --> 01:19:47,199
but if it doesn't

2302
01:19:52,390 --> 01:19:50,320
then the rewards are so much greater

2303
01:19:54,790 --> 01:19:52,400
and

2304
01:19:57,510 --> 01:19:54,800
the survival component of what i've done

2305
01:19:59,510 --> 01:19:57,520
has been painful at times but hey

2306
01:20:01,669 --> 01:19:59,520
i'm sitting here right now

2307
01:20:03,270 --> 01:20:01,679
i just had a wonderful cappuccino some

2308
01:20:07,189 --> 01:20:03,280
cheesecake i'm on the other side of it

2309
01:20:09,590 --> 01:20:07,199
and some cheesecake you know so

2310
01:20:12,070 --> 01:20:09,600
i the beauty of

2311
01:20:14,630 --> 01:20:12,080
pushing through the difficulties

2312
01:20:17,189 --> 01:20:14,640
is then when you have you have

2313
01:20:19,510 --> 01:20:17,199
the perspective perspectives everything

2314
01:20:21,830 --> 01:20:19,520
in life travel is so important i just

2315
01:20:24,390 --> 01:20:21,840
wish people would do more of that

2316
01:20:25,189 --> 01:20:24,400
and pain and and

2317
01:20:26,310 --> 01:20:25,199
and

2318
01:20:28,550 --> 01:20:26,320
struggle

2319
01:20:30,070 --> 01:20:28,560
uh give you perspective if we bubble

2320
01:20:32,390 --> 01:20:30,080
wrap ourselves and protect ourselves we

2321
01:20:34,390 --> 01:20:32,400
just don't have any perspective

2322
01:20:36,470 --> 01:20:34,400
anymore and uh

2323
01:20:38,550 --> 01:20:36,480
so i just always knew that so that's

2324
01:20:40,870 --> 01:20:38,560
that's how i would that's how it changed

2325
01:20:42,630 --> 01:20:40,880
i i learned that getting to the other

2326
01:20:44,630 --> 01:20:42,640
side of pain getting the other side of

2327
01:20:46,550 --> 01:20:44,640
struggle and survival traveling and

2328
01:20:48,070 --> 01:20:46,560
seeing the world these things

2329
01:20:49,590 --> 01:20:48,080
give me perspective

2330
01:20:51,750 --> 01:20:49,600
and when i have that perspective and i'm

2331
01:20:51,750 --> 01:20:53,910
in conversation i don't get caught up in

2332
01:20:57,189 --> 01:20:55,669
paul v wants to know when times are

2333
01:21:04,630 --> 01:20:57,199
hardest what is the one thing that gives

2334
01:21:14,310 --> 01:21:05,910
trying to think of when times are

2335
01:21:18,070 --> 01:21:16,390
feeling like i'm not done

2336
01:21:19,990 --> 01:21:18,080
or reminding myself

2337
01:21:20,870 --> 01:21:20,000
that i'm not done i don't ever want to

2338
01:21:22,070 --> 01:21:20,880
finish

2339
01:21:23,189 --> 01:21:22,080
ever

2340
01:21:24,790 --> 01:21:23,199
i want to be

2341
01:21:26,950 --> 01:21:24,800
you know just putting out a novel on my

2342
01:21:29,430 --> 01:21:26,960
97th birthday just before i die or

2343
01:21:31,189 --> 01:21:29,440
something you know

2344
01:21:33,750 --> 01:21:31,199
just reminding myself that i'm not

2345
01:21:36,229 --> 01:21:33,760
finished and i have more yet to do gets

2346
01:21:38,149 --> 01:21:36,239
me going keeps me going it's like okay

2347
01:21:39,110 --> 01:21:38,159
all right suck it up let's get up and go

2348
01:21:41,270 --> 01:21:39,120
again

2349
01:21:43,590 --> 01:21:41,280
you know

2350
01:21:45,430 --> 01:21:43,600
at stan aleister asks have you ever used

2351
01:21:48,070 --> 01:21:45,440
any of wim hof's cold endurance

2352
01:21:53,110 --> 01:21:48,080
techniques if so can these extend one

2353
01:21:55,910 --> 01:21:54,470
uh

2354
01:21:57,990 --> 01:21:55,920
if the harsh condition is being

2355
01:22:00,149 --> 01:21:58,000
submersed in ice cold water sure

2356
01:22:01,669 --> 01:22:00,159
because that's what it is uh yeah

2357
01:22:03,669 --> 01:22:01,679
that'll extend that you jump out of a

2358
01:22:06,070 --> 01:22:03,679
boat in alaska i mean that's probably

2359
01:22:07,910 --> 01:22:06,080
going to help that absolutely i think

2360
01:22:09,510 --> 01:22:07,920
but then overall sure i mean i do

2361
01:22:11,750 --> 01:22:09,520
believe and agree with the with the

2362
01:22:13,590 --> 01:22:11,760
concept of it um simply because i felt

2363
01:22:15,030 --> 01:22:13,600
my own body felt stronger and felt

2364
01:22:17,430 --> 01:22:15,040
better because of doing the wim hof

2365
01:22:18,950 --> 01:22:17,440
methods so yeah i i like i said

2366
01:22:20,229 --> 01:22:18,960
notwithstanding our earlier conversation

2367
01:22:22,709 --> 01:22:20,239
about potential tinnitus from the

2368
01:22:25,990 --> 01:22:22,719
breathing um yeah i think whims on to

2369
01:22:27,030 --> 01:22:26,000
something pretty great uh and and i do

2370
01:22:28,629 --> 01:22:27,040
adhere i haven't gotten into his

2371
01:22:30,229 --> 01:22:28,639
meditative techniques yet but the first

2372
01:22:31,430 --> 01:22:30,239
i've got steps one and step two

2373
01:22:34,310 --> 01:22:31,440
definitely

2374
01:22:36,390 --> 01:22:34,320
james mckevitt asks kurt in canada most

2375
01:22:38,149 --> 01:22:36,400
outdoorsmen have watched survivorman

2376
01:22:40,229 --> 01:22:38,159
religiously by the way i'm from toronto

2377
01:22:42,790 --> 01:22:40,239
in case you didn't know less

2378
01:22:44,470 --> 01:22:42,800
did mr stroud ever suffer any long-term

2379
01:22:47,510 --> 01:22:44,480
physical or mental duress from his

2380
01:22:50,390 --> 01:22:47,520
extreme survival outings thank you

2381
01:22:51,590 --> 01:22:50,400
no not at all zero um two reasons for

2382
01:22:53,270 --> 01:22:51,600
that i've had short term i've had

2383
01:22:54,629 --> 01:22:53,280
parasites that's the only thing that

2384
01:22:55,990 --> 01:22:54,639
that's really been an issue but i've

2385
01:22:59,189 --> 01:22:56,000
taken care of those with some pills

2386
01:23:00,149 --> 01:22:59,199
basically um and otherwise no uh no long

2387
01:23:01,910 --> 01:23:00,159
term

2388
01:23:03,110 --> 01:23:01,920
uh

2389
01:23:04,950 --> 01:23:03,120
no no

2390
01:23:06,709 --> 01:23:04,960
it's funny because

2391
01:23:09,189 --> 01:23:06,719
it's the opposite

2392
01:23:12,070 --> 01:23:09,199
i think i'm out in nature

2393
01:23:13,669 --> 01:23:12,080
seven days alone it's it nature heals

2394
01:23:15,350 --> 01:23:13,679
nature strengthens nature nature

2395
01:23:17,189 --> 01:23:15,360
de-stresses

2396
01:23:21,030 --> 01:23:17,199
and i get that healing that

2397
01:23:22,550 --> 01:23:21,040
strengthening and that distressing uh

2398
01:23:23,510 --> 01:23:22,560
to the nth degree

2399
01:23:25,750 --> 01:23:23,520
so

2400
01:23:28,709 --> 01:23:25,760
no i i have no long term and no short

2401
01:23:30,390 --> 01:23:28,719
term really i have nothing but benefit

2402
01:23:33,350 --> 01:23:30,400
benefits

2403
01:23:36,629 --> 01:23:34,950
okay i'm interested in what kind of

2404
01:23:38,709 --> 01:23:36,639
theory of everything does survivor man

2405
01:23:39,990 --> 01:23:38,719
has how does he feel about the great

2406
01:23:42,470 --> 01:23:40,000
reset

2407
01:23:44,229 --> 01:23:42,480
and the technocratic neo-feudalism which

2408
01:23:45,910 --> 01:23:44,239
we seem to be headed for

2409
01:23:47,510 --> 01:23:45,920
so how does he feel about the great

2410
01:23:52,310 --> 01:23:47,520
reset

2411
01:23:53,830 --> 01:23:52,320
and then how do you feel about it

2412
01:23:55,830 --> 01:23:53,840
i'm assuming he's talking when he says

2413
01:23:57,270 --> 01:23:55,840
the great reset i assume i'm assuming

2414
01:23:58,629 --> 01:23:57,280
he's talking about right now this moment

2415
01:23:59,669 --> 01:23:58,639
in time with the pandemic because that's

2416
01:24:00,629 --> 01:23:59,679
what everybody's called on the great

2417
01:24:02,470 --> 01:24:00,639
reset

2418
01:24:03,430 --> 01:24:02,480
um and and

2419
01:24:04,870 --> 01:24:03,440
uh

2420
01:24:06,870 --> 01:24:04,880
how do i feel about it what an

2421
01:24:08,390 --> 01:24:06,880
interesting way to ask that how do i

2422
01:24:14,390 --> 01:24:08,400
more about the technocratic

2423
01:24:20,709 --> 01:24:17,350
just this morning i was thinking that

2424
01:24:24,709 --> 01:24:22,310
that i want to turn my back on it and

2425
01:24:26,390 --> 01:24:24,719
continue creating

2426
01:24:28,390 --> 01:24:26,400
because

2427
01:24:31,350 --> 01:24:28,400
getting caught up in all of that going

2428
01:24:32,790 --> 01:24:31,360
on around us is not good for the soul

2429
01:24:34,550 --> 01:24:32,800
uh

2430
01:24:35,750 --> 01:24:34,560
if it's your thing

2431
01:24:37,990 --> 01:24:35,760
okay

2432
01:24:40,390 --> 01:24:38,000
but i gotta be honest

2433
01:24:41,990 --> 01:24:40,400
it's never been my thing to get caught

2434
01:24:43,910 --> 01:24:42,000
up in these big moments in time like

2435
01:24:45,350 --> 01:24:43,920
this in fact when i was an outdoor guide

2436
01:24:47,990 --> 01:24:45,360
stuff used to come and go in the world

2437
01:24:49,830 --> 01:24:48,000
and i barely even knew i'm not saying be

2438
01:24:52,790 --> 01:24:49,840
selfish live selfishly but what i'm

2439
01:24:54,470 --> 01:24:52,800
saying is i better serve

2440
01:24:57,189 --> 01:24:54,480
this

2441
01:24:59,510 --> 01:24:57,199
greater theory of everything if you will

2442
01:25:00,790 --> 01:24:59,520
if i am

2443
01:25:03,510 --> 01:25:00,800
putting

2444
01:25:04,950 --> 01:25:03,520
content out that uplifts people inspires

2445
01:25:07,030 --> 01:25:04,960
people brings about a positive influence

2446
01:25:09,590 --> 01:25:07,040
on people's lives i better i'm better

2447
01:25:10,870 --> 01:25:09,600
served and i better serve this great

2448
01:25:13,110 --> 01:25:10,880
thing that's

2449
01:25:14,950 --> 01:25:13,120
going on we call live if i concentrate

2450
01:25:18,310 --> 01:25:14,960
on that and i and i'm not copying out

2451
01:25:20,629 --> 01:25:18,320
from the question i'm saying it's i i

2452
01:25:23,830 --> 01:25:20,639
i turn back i turn my back on it

2453
01:25:25,430 --> 01:25:23,840
on that question because i i just

2454
01:25:27,669 --> 01:25:25,440
it'd be a waste of my energy to try to

2455
01:25:30,310 --> 01:25:27,679
be to try to even have a feeling about

2456
01:25:32,070 --> 01:25:30,320
it right now you know

2457
01:25:33,590 --> 01:25:32,080
some guy i hope that's not a cop-out no

2458
01:25:35,830 --> 01:25:33,600
no no not at all it's a great

2459
01:25:38,550 --> 01:25:35,840
perspective some guy asks

2460
01:25:41,669 --> 01:25:38,560
have you found that being

2461
01:25:48,310 --> 01:25:41,679
alone is one of the most important

2462
01:25:51,910 --> 01:25:49,830
well first of all being comfortable

2463
01:25:53,030 --> 01:25:51,920
alone is an important skill but the most

2464
01:25:55,350 --> 01:25:53,040
important one of the most important

2465
01:25:56,870 --> 01:25:55,360
skills to have today being comfortable

2466
01:25:59,750 --> 01:25:56,880
alone

2467
01:26:03,590 --> 01:25:59,760
i'm going to say you know i'll say

2468
01:26:07,990 --> 01:26:05,910
for one if it's forced upon you then you

2469
01:26:09,030 --> 01:26:08,000
you have that you have that skill set

2470
01:26:09,830 --> 01:26:09,040
you have that

2471
01:26:13,669 --> 01:26:09,840
that

2472
01:26:15,270 --> 01:26:13,679
being alone if you're comfortable with

2473
01:26:16,470 --> 01:26:15,280
it you're okay all right well i'm going

2474
01:26:18,470 --> 01:26:16,480
to be alone for a bit okay i can deal

2475
01:26:19,750 --> 01:26:18,480
with that and some people can't they

2476
01:26:21,030 --> 01:26:19,760
panic

2477
01:26:23,110 --> 01:26:21,040
um

2478
01:26:25,270 --> 01:26:23,120
but is it one of the more necessary

2479
01:26:32,390 --> 01:26:25,280
skills and more vital skills

2480
01:26:37,189 --> 01:26:34,310
it's circumstantial i think that's a

2481
01:26:38,950 --> 01:26:37,199
circumstantial skill and if your

2482
01:26:40,629 --> 01:26:38,960
circumstances

2483
01:26:41,910 --> 01:26:40,639
indicate that that may be part of your

2484
01:26:44,390 --> 01:26:41,920
future then sure you better be

2485
01:26:45,350 --> 01:26:44,400
comfortable with being alone but if if

2486
01:26:47,350 --> 01:26:45,360
not

2487
01:26:49,590 --> 01:26:47,360
then you can you can cruise you can

2488
01:26:51,030 --> 01:26:49,600
cruise without really developing that

2489
01:26:52,790 --> 01:26:51,040
skill set and concentrate on other

2490
01:26:54,550 --> 01:26:52,800
skills skill sets where you're more

2491
01:26:56,709 --> 01:26:54,560
gregarious and you're more you're more

2492
01:26:58,870 --> 01:26:56,719
you're more involved people and so on so

2493
01:27:01,590 --> 01:26:58,880
i i say it's circumstantial but yeah if

2494
01:27:04,070 --> 01:27:01,600
your circumstances push for it

2495
01:27:06,950 --> 01:27:04,080
then yes it's an important skill okay

2496
01:27:08,470 --> 01:27:06,960
two more questions philip warham asks he

2497
01:27:10,629 --> 01:27:08,480
may have spoken about this already but

2498
01:27:12,709 --> 01:27:10,639
ask him about prepping especially for

2499
01:27:14,310 --> 01:27:12,719
climate change and emp

2500
01:27:16,070 --> 01:27:14,320
solar storms

2501
01:27:18,470 --> 01:27:16,080
yeah um

2502
01:27:19,270 --> 01:27:18,480
so i'm sorry to burst the bubble here

2503
01:27:23,030 --> 01:27:19,280
but

2504
01:27:27,669 --> 01:27:25,430
if you see prepping as

2505
01:27:29,669 --> 01:27:27,679
building a bunker in the backyard

2506
01:27:31,590 --> 01:27:29,679
having a set of shotguns and various

2507
01:27:33,990 --> 01:27:31,600
guns having your store and being ready

2508
01:27:36,149 --> 01:27:34,000
to to protect your land as the way to

2509
01:27:38,310 --> 01:27:36,159
prep because that's what i originally

2510
01:27:40,310 --> 01:27:38,320
saw as preppers

2511
01:27:41,669 --> 01:27:40,320
preppers now will say no that's not us

2512
01:27:43,750 --> 01:27:41,679
we're just we're just having good

2513
01:27:46,229 --> 01:27:43,760
supplies on it so all right well then we

2514
01:27:47,750 --> 01:27:46,239
have to define preppers in my brain

2515
01:27:49,990 --> 01:27:47,760
preppers is the guy building the bunker

2516
01:27:51,189 --> 01:27:50,000
okay so let's just just go with that i'm

2517
01:27:52,950 --> 01:27:51,199
not talking about people who are getting

2518
01:27:53,990 --> 01:27:52,960
themselves prepared

2519
01:27:56,149 --> 01:27:54,000
see that's how i interact because i

2520
01:27:59,189 --> 01:27:56,159
don't know about this word prepper

2521
01:28:00,950 --> 01:27:59,199
yeah so no preparation so

2522
01:28:03,830 --> 01:28:00,960
being prepared

2523
01:28:05,750 --> 01:28:03,840
of course it's a that's a no-brainer

2524
01:28:07,669 --> 01:28:05,760
but the other version i think i think

2525
01:28:10,310 --> 01:28:07,679
they're very very foolish individuals

2526
01:28:12,149 --> 01:28:10,320
first of all whatever goes down

2527
01:28:13,750 --> 01:28:12,159
we're not going to be ready for it

2528
01:28:16,550 --> 01:28:13,760
you know you oh i'm going to go out i'm

2529
01:28:19,350 --> 01:28:16,560
just going to hunt deer and fish for

2530
01:28:21,030 --> 01:28:19,360
for walleye and i'll be sad

2531
01:28:22,709 --> 01:28:21,040
yeah and if the lakes are full of

2532
01:28:23,669 --> 01:28:22,719
acidification and the deer have died

2533
01:28:25,910 --> 01:28:23,679
because of

2534
01:28:27,910 --> 01:28:25,920
you know radiation really

2535
01:28:29,510 --> 01:28:27,920
no you're not um i'm gonna sit here in

2536
01:28:30,470 --> 01:28:29,520
my bunker and protect myself really so

2537
01:28:31,910 --> 01:28:30,480
if your

2538
01:28:33,590 --> 01:28:31,920
12 year old daughter comes to you and

2539
01:28:35,030 --> 01:28:33,600
tears and and says can my best friend

2540
01:28:36,470 --> 01:28:35,040
and their family come and live with us

2541
01:28:37,590 --> 01:28:36,480
because their house was was ruined in

2542
01:28:39,510 --> 01:28:37,600
the disaster you're going to sit there

2543
01:28:41,350 --> 01:28:39,520
with a shotgun and go no stay away no

2544
01:28:44,149 --> 01:28:41,360
you're going to let them in so

2545
01:28:45,830 --> 01:28:44,159
i think a lot of the hardcore prepper

2546
01:28:49,750 --> 01:28:45,840
stuff is just and silly and

2547
01:28:51,510 --> 01:28:49,760
nonsense and small-minded um uh and also

2548
01:28:53,750 --> 01:28:51,520
by the way everybody else who has a

2549
01:28:54,629 --> 01:28:53,760
bunch of guns also knows who has all the

2550
01:28:59,270 --> 01:28:54,639
food

2551
01:29:00,390 --> 01:28:59,280
so and we have bigger guns you know what

2552
01:29:01,669 --> 01:29:00,400
i'm saying it's just it's a silly

2553
01:29:03,830 --> 01:29:01,679
situation

2554
01:29:05,590 --> 01:29:03,840
but um

2555
01:29:06,870 --> 01:29:05,600
i think better than being prepared with

2556
01:29:08,870 --> 01:29:06,880
food on hand

2557
01:29:11,189 --> 01:29:08,880
i think better than being prepared with

2558
01:29:13,830 --> 01:29:11,199
spare clothing and equipment and this

2559
01:29:15,590 --> 01:29:13,840
is being prepared with skill sets that

2560
01:29:18,229 --> 01:29:15,600
enable you

2561
01:29:21,110 --> 01:29:18,239
to survive through whatever

2562
01:29:23,350 --> 01:29:21,120
if you were just there in your clothes

2563
01:29:25,590 --> 01:29:23,360
how to be adaptive how to how to find

2564
01:29:27,430 --> 01:29:25,600
things how to you know scrounge things

2565
01:29:29,430 --> 01:29:27,440
that to me is stronger and then

2566
01:29:31,350 --> 01:29:29,440
secondarily yes

2567
01:29:33,030 --> 01:29:31,360
i have a lot of food in my basement yes

2568
01:29:34,709 --> 01:29:33,040
have you thought about making a course

2569
01:29:36,310 --> 01:29:34,719
like you hear many youtubers do

2570
01:29:37,590 --> 01:29:36,320
skillshare have you thought about making

2571
01:29:39,030 --> 01:29:37,600
course whether it's on skillshare or

2572
01:29:40,950 --> 01:29:39,040
whatever it may be

2573
01:29:42,870 --> 01:29:40,960
on how to survive or is it so different

2574
01:29:44,149 --> 01:29:42,880
in each environment

2575
01:29:46,310 --> 01:29:44,159
oh it's vastly different in each

2576
01:29:47,990 --> 01:29:46,320
environment and i i kind of have right

2577
01:29:49,669 --> 01:29:48,000
because if you think about it 20 years

2578
01:29:51,830 --> 01:29:49,679
of creating survival films with survivor

2579
01:29:54,229 --> 01:29:51,840
man and the like those those films read

2580
01:29:56,709 --> 01:29:54,239
out like a course i i wasn't making a tv

2581
01:29:58,870 --> 01:29:56,719
show i was teaching you how to survive

2582
01:30:00,870 --> 01:29:58,880
and i just launched the series surviving

2583
01:30:03,350 --> 01:30:00,880
disasters with less drought on pbs

2584
01:30:05,270 --> 01:30:03,360
stations in the united states and on um

2585
01:30:07,189 --> 01:30:05,280
and on youtube here in canada and those

2586
01:30:08,950 --> 01:30:07,199
are meant to teach you ways to survive

2587
01:30:10,550 --> 01:30:08,960
natural disasters so

2588
01:30:11,510 --> 01:30:10,560
yeah i could do the whole online course

2589
01:30:16,229 --> 01:30:11,520
thing

2590
01:30:18,070 --> 01:30:16,239
kurt is is that

2591
01:30:20,709 --> 01:30:18,080
to me

2592
01:30:22,790 --> 01:30:20,719
that smacks of being a businessman

2593
01:30:25,110 --> 01:30:22,800
doing something for a business sense

2594
01:30:27,750 --> 01:30:25,120
i've been doing courses my whole career

2595
01:30:31,510 --> 01:30:27,760
and putting them out there in film form

2596
01:30:32,470 --> 01:30:31,520
uh so i i'm not into

2597
01:30:34,310 --> 01:30:32,480
business

2598
01:30:36,390 --> 01:30:34,320
all right last question comes from

2599
01:30:38,390 --> 01:30:36,400
dwayne elizondo mountain dew herbert

2600
01:30:40,470 --> 01:30:38,400
camacho that's all one name

2601
01:30:42,950 --> 01:30:40,480
he wants to know regarding the missing

2602
01:30:45,110 --> 01:30:42,960
apple slash candy on his bigfoot special

2603
01:30:46,950 --> 01:30:45,120
and bigfoot in general does he think

2604
01:30:49,270 --> 01:30:46,960
there could be a species that is both

2605
01:30:51,669 --> 01:30:49,280
interdimensional and low tech so that is

2606
01:30:53,510 --> 01:30:51,679
primitive even

2607
01:30:55,350 --> 01:30:53,520
yeah absolutely i do and that's what i

2608
01:30:57,430 --> 01:30:55,360
mean by their ability to manifest their

2609
01:30:59,590 --> 01:30:57,440
own it to to manipulate their own life

2610
01:31:01,990 --> 01:30:59,600
force energy and then manifest and then

2611
01:31:03,910 --> 01:31:02,000
they man different manifestations so

2612
01:31:06,070 --> 01:31:03,920
there's a physical manifestation or

2613
01:31:07,990 --> 01:31:06,080
manifestation who knows if we could do

2614
01:31:10,709 --> 01:31:08,000
it i'd do it you know what if i could if

2615
01:31:12,790 --> 01:31:10,719
i could manipulate my own life energy

2616
01:31:15,110 --> 01:31:12,800
perhaps i could vibrate to a point where

2617
01:31:17,430 --> 01:31:15,120
i'm not visible to the eye anymore

2618
01:31:18,950 --> 01:31:17,440
right and then be cool as hell sub

2619
01:31:23,510 --> 01:31:18,960
question from him like have you ever

2620
01:31:27,270 --> 01:31:25,510
do you understand what he means by that

2621
01:31:29,030 --> 01:31:27,280
oh i totally do and you know the short

2622
01:31:30,870 --> 01:31:29,040
answer is no i haven't i know what he

2623
01:31:32,390 --> 01:31:30,880
means but i have not

2624
01:31:34,149 --> 01:31:32,400
les what do you have to promote where

2625
01:31:35,669 --> 01:31:34,159
can people find out more about you

2626
01:31:37,110 --> 01:31:35,679
what's next for you

2627
01:31:38,870 --> 01:31:37,120
okay actually i'll do an addendum to

2628
01:31:40,470 --> 01:31:38,880
that question i did experience lost time

2629
01:31:41,910 --> 01:31:40,480
while in the middle of a car accident so

2630
01:31:44,229 --> 01:31:41,920
there you go

2631
01:31:45,750 --> 01:31:44,239
and heard a very strong voice that told

2632
01:31:47,189 --> 01:31:45,760
me to move and if i didn't move i was

2633
01:31:50,229 --> 01:31:47,199
going to break my neck so i moved and i

2634
01:31:51,990 --> 01:31:50,239
did not break my neck but i did break

2635
01:31:53,750 --> 01:31:52,000
three ribs punctured along and dislocate

2636
01:31:55,510 --> 01:31:53,760
two shoulders

2637
01:31:57,110 --> 01:31:55,520
how old are you that was

2638
01:31:58,870 --> 01:31:57,120
uh this is just a couple years ago and

2639
01:32:00,870 --> 01:31:58,880
it happened in slow motion i mean it was

2640
01:32:02,470 --> 01:32:00,880
legitimate slow motion in that role it

2641
01:32:03,590 --> 01:32:02,480
was unbelievable

2642
01:32:05,110 --> 01:32:03,600
um

2643
01:32:07,110 --> 01:32:05,120
my wife was beside me she experienced

2644
01:32:08,709 --> 01:32:07,120
the exact same thing slow motion it

2645
01:32:11,590 --> 01:32:08,719
watched it happen no voice happened very

2646
01:32:12,550 --> 01:32:11,600
fast but no voice for her though

2647
01:32:14,950 --> 01:32:12,560
no

2648
01:32:17,110 --> 01:32:14,960
so uh the biggest thing for me really is

2649
01:32:18,390 --> 01:32:17,120
my youtube i'm i'm really having fun

2650
01:32:20,950 --> 01:32:18,400
putting everything else on everything on

2651
01:32:23,189 --> 01:32:20,960
youtube survivorman lestrade um i have a

2652
01:32:25,350 --> 01:32:23,199
brand new book out for kids wild outside

2653
01:32:27,030 --> 01:32:25,360
getting your kids out in nature again

2654
01:32:28,070 --> 01:32:27,040
uh and it's for them by the way written

2655
01:32:30,390 --> 01:32:28,080
to them

2656
01:32:31,750 --> 01:32:30,400
um i have a brand new um i'm finally

2657
01:32:33,590 --> 01:32:31,760
releasing my mother earth album on

2658
01:32:34,629 --> 01:32:33,600
double vinyl fold out double fold up

2659
01:32:37,750 --> 01:32:34,639
final album

2660
01:32:40,070 --> 01:32:37,760
this year and two new albums after that

2661
01:32:41,750 --> 01:32:40,080
and uh and then i have my uh two series

2662
01:32:44,070 --> 01:32:41,760
that are on the pbs stations presented

2663
01:32:46,310 --> 01:32:44,080
by american public television that is

2664
01:32:48,550 --> 01:32:46,320
wild harvest local foraging turning them

2665
01:32:50,629 --> 01:32:48,560
into an amazing meal and surviving

2666
01:32:52,629 --> 01:32:50,639
disasters with less drought about

2667
01:32:54,310 --> 01:32:52,639
surviving natural disasters so a lot on

2668
01:32:56,390 --> 01:32:54,320
the go all the time a lot of this stuff

2669
01:32:57,750 --> 01:32:56,400
outflowing um

2670
01:32:58,950 --> 01:32:57,760
and uh

2671
01:33:00,550 --> 01:32:58,960
getting all the way back to what you

2672
01:33:03,270 --> 01:33:00,560
originally asked and i think the reason

2673
01:33:04,470 --> 01:33:03,280
is because i really don't want

2674
01:33:06,070 --> 01:33:04,480
to cease

2675
01:33:08,709 --> 01:33:06,080
this manifestation

2676
01:33:10,629 --> 01:33:08,719
of my life force right now i like the

2677
01:33:14,550 --> 01:33:10,639
flesh and blood manifestation of my life

2678
01:33:19,110 --> 01:33:16,550
emotionally

2679
01:33:22,310 --> 01:33:19,120
wants to be a prolific artist

2680
01:33:24,070 --> 01:33:22,320
and that's where i that's the only thing

2681
01:33:26,070 --> 01:33:24,080
and continue to be

2682
01:33:28,950 --> 01:33:26,080
continue to be abs absolutely and that's

2683
01:33:32,070 --> 01:33:28,960
what keeps me putting so it's a lot i

2684
01:33:33,669 --> 01:33:32,080
love having a long list of things to say

2685
01:33:35,510 --> 01:33:33,679
thank you man it was an honor for me to

2686
01:33:37,270 --> 01:33:35,520
be able to speak with you

2687
01:33:39,910 --> 01:33:37,280
thank you very much love the questions

2688
01:33:42,950 --> 01:33:39,920
uh and and love this podcast so i

2689
01:33:46,629 --> 01:33:44,870
the podcast is now finished if you'd

2690
01:33:52,669 --> 01:33:46,639
like to support conversations like this

2691
01:33:57,510 --> 01:33:55,750
j-a-i-m-u-n-g-a-l that is kurt jaimungle

2692
01:33:59,110 --> 01:33:57,520
it's support from the patrons and from

2693
01:34:00,709 --> 01:33:59,120
the sponsors that allow me to do this